aside The Russian-Ukrainian Connection With Presidents Putin And Trump

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On 1/10/16 BuzzFeed News published a controversial document which details some of the republican President-elect Donald Trump’s interactions with Russia but which hasn’t been fully vetted for accuracy. But the data appears to have some significance as a copy was delivered to President Barack Obama, the President-elect Trump and eight U.S. House members. However on 1/11/17, several news outlets reported that the document in question was marked “Disinformation.”

BuzzFeed had made public the full document so that Americans could make up their own minds about allegations against the president-elect that have circulated at the highest levels of the U.S. government.

What caught my attention regarding this document, were paragraphs on page 7 and page 8 regarding Ukraine which is as follows:

1.) Speaking in confidence to a compatriot in late July 2016, Source E, an ethnic Russian close associate of republican U.S. Presidential candidate Donald Trump admitted there was a well developed conspiracy of cooperation between them and Russian leadership. This was managed on Trump side by the republican candidate’s campaign manager, Paul Manafort, who was using foreign policy advisor Carter Page and others as intermediaries. The two sides had a mutual interest in defeating democratic presidential candidate, Hillary Clinton whom President Putin apparently, both hated and feared.Image result for photos of donald trump in russia

2.) “Inter alia, Source E acknowledged that the Russian regime had been behind the recent leaks of embarrassing e-mail messages emanating from DNC to WikiLeaks platform.”

“In return, the Trump team had agreed to sideline Russian intervention in Ukraine as a campaign issue and to raise US/ NATO defense commitments in the Baltic and Eastern Europe to deflect attention away from Ukraine, a priority for Putin who needed to cauterize the subject.”

In summary, if the allegations were proven to be true, it would mean that the president -elect and his team were prepared to alter the U.S. policy towards Ukraine and Russia in return for the Russian’s assistance in garnering information about the democratic presidential nominee, Hillary Clinton. This could explain why in July 2016, Mr. Trump’s surrogates worked hard to have current U.S. policy towards Ukraine deleted from the republican party platform.Related image

Here are excerpts from Josh Rogan’s 7/18/16 Washington Post article, “Trump campaign guts GOP’s anti-Russia stance on Ukraine:”

“The Trump campaign worked behind the scenes last week to make sure the new Republican platform won’t call for giving weapons to Ukraine to fight Russian and rebel forces, contradicting the view of almost all Republican foreign policy leaders in Washington.”

“Throughout the campaign, Trump has been dismissive of calls for supporting the Ukraine government as it fights an ongoing Russian-led intervention. Trump’s campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, worked for the Russian-backed former Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych for more than a decade.” Image result for photos of donald trump in russia

“Still, Republican delegates at last week’s national security committee platform meeting in Cleveland were surprised when the Trump campaign orchestrated a set of events to make sure that the GOP would not pledge to give Ukraine the weapons it has been asking for from the United States.”

Inside the meeting, Diana Denman, a platform committee member from Texas who was a Ted Cruz supporter, proposed a platform amendment that would call for maintaining or increasing sanctions against Russia, increasing aid for Ukraine and “providing lethal defensive weapons” to the Ukrainian military.:

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“Today, the post-Cold War ideal of a ‘Europe whole and free’ is being severely tested by Russia’s ongoing military aggression in Ukraine,” the amendment read. “The Ukrainian people deserve our admiration and support in their struggle.”

“Trump staffers in the room, who are not delegates but are there to oversee the process, intervened. By working with pro-Trump delegates, they were able to get the issue tabled while they devised a method to roll back the language.”

“On the sideline, Denman tried to persuade the Trump staffers not to change the language, but failed. “I was troubled when they put aside my amendment and then watered it down,” Denman told me. “I said, ‘What is your problem with a country that wants to remain free?’ It seems like a simple thing.”

“Finally, Trump staffers wrote an amendment to Denman’s amendment that stripped out the platform’s call for “providing lethal defensive weapons” and replaced it with softer language calling for “appropriate assistance.”Related image

“That amendment was voted on and passed. When the Republican Party releases its platform Monday, the official Republican party position on arms for Ukraine will be at odds with almost all the party’s national security leaders.”

“For  (President-elect Donald) Trump, the biggest threat to Europe is not Russia, according to people familiar with his thinking. He believes the United States should focus on helping Europe fight Islamist terrorism and open borders, not confronting Putin. He has called for a reduction of the U.S. commitment to NATO. He simply doesn’t see Russia as a dangerous threat.

UPDATE ON 1/11/17: The intelligence community had marked the 1/10/17 BuzzFeed published document as “Disinformation.”

15 comments

    • Dear 1EarthUnited,

      I have updated this and another blog, that this disclosure delivered to president etc. was marked as “DISINFORMATION.” You were right in taking a principled stand.

      Independent of this fact, I am still bothered about why the DT team deleted the U.S. policy towards Ukraine from the republican platform.

      I knew some of what I read did not ring true like the golden showers bit. But the part regarding Ukraine did ring true in that, it would not have been beyond folks like Paul Manafort, Roger Stone and Carter Page to have been working things out with Russian officials to the mutual benefit of DT and Russia.

      I suspect that the intelligence community did get DT’s attention. If he did anything unseemly while visiting Russia, he needs to come clean. YES, I think that this was a CIA operation but this is speculation on my part. The former MI6 British agent who compiled this report had various sources. This is why parts may be true, and parts may be false, and the whole document can be fake news, and so the info still has to be investigated and probably is being checked out fully by the FBI.
      I suspect that this was a CIA op because it was included in the daily briefing book shared with President Obama, delivered to the president-elect who admitted reading it. But it was also delivered to 8 U.S. house officials.

      A leak was inevitable.

      Mea culpa, Gronda

      • Thanks for this update, I believe we as citizens have a responsibility to discern the truth, using critical thinking, analysis, basic logic, and listening to our gut feelings as well. Many vested interests in gov’t, ie corporate lobbyists, news media, political parties want to sway our point of view to align with their agenda… which certainly is not in the best interest of the public. Good rule of thumb is to follow the money, keep digging deeper into the real issues, to recognize and filter out the propaganda, quick sounds bites, disinfo etc.

        You do realize that the Ukrainian colored revolution was an attempt by Washington, via CIA, NATO mercenaries posing as corporate contractors/ advisors, to destabilize Russia. Victoria Nuland, the Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs at the United States Department of State admitted that Washington has spent $5 Billion to “Subvert Ukraine”. Here’s her infamous speech:

        DT Team did not want to bring up US policy for Ukraine b/c it is a political nightmare to address. Hillary intelligently avoided the issue as well, both candidates distancing themselves from this unsavory coup that Obama has dragged the US into. Trump wishes to quietly save face by withdrawing support for Kiev’s installed president Poroshenko, as well as pulling out of Syria and possibly Afghanistan.

        Historically CIA has been used as a tool to serve the globalist agenda/ corporate masters, just follow the money. Here’s a neat list:
        http://www.globalresearch.ca/a-timeline-of-cia-atrocities/5348804

        Rabbit hole goes down pretty deep, I would suggest that we all do independent research and not rely on any one source that may be biased. I try to keep an open mind, but do admit is increasingly difficult these days.
        Thank you for taking the time to address these important issues!

        • Dear 1EarthUnited,

          Thank you for the added and clarifying data. I admit that my bias v DT took over and the results are obvious. I am still very much concerned about DT’s connections to Russia/ Ukraine.

          Mea culpa again, Gronda

        • I’m not a supporter of DT, and did not vote for him. With that being said, he is stepping up to expose corporate corruption/ cronyism, taking on Big Pharma, repealing that fiscally inept Obamacare, negotiating with corporations to retain American jobs, meeting with world leaders to talk peace, withdrawing from Ukraine, Syria, possibly Iraq & Afghanistan, making peace with Russia. Wow he did more in one month than Obama did in 8 years… as President Elect before his inauguration! To me action speaks louder than words, so all i can say is DT — keep up the great work!

        • Dear 1EarthUnited,

          I did not vote for DT. I had been a long time registered republican but now I am a registered Independent. I could be described as being in the camp of Ana Navarro. What this means is that I am not ideology driven.

          Frankly, I would not vote for anyone of any party to become our US president who at the age of 60 years old bragged about being able to grab women’s body parts with impunity because of who he is.

          That being said, I would support any of his actions that lifts up the average family like his pushing to update our infrastructure.

          As for dealing with Russia, there is nothing wrong with that goal as long as DT does this without compromising US national interests. My concern is that he does not have a clear eye perspective on Russia, in particular President Putin who is a ex KGB director who kills off opponents, critics. This does not mean that we don’t do deals that are mutually beneficial.

          Ciao, Gronda

        • Exactly! Well said, regarding compromising our security and national interests.No president or public official is beyond reproach, as responsible citizens, we must keep them all in check and hold them accountable for their actions. So far Trump is doing a good job, but I don’t trust him (or any politician) for a NY minute! For some reason, I also see him impeached before his term is out. Trump has many enemies, political and otherwise.

        • Dear 1EarthUnited,

          I do like your comments. But for some reason the like star option to click “like” has not been available for your comments.

          Thanks for your comments, Gronda

  1. Gronda, thanks for sharing this. Why so adamant that it wasn’t the Russians? That is the question that begs an answer. Whether he is or not, his adamance looks like he his ego cannot accept the fact he had helped and/ or he had help. Now, the question on the latter, did he involve himself in the process to glean the help?

    These are legitimate questions and are newsworthy. I just hope these questions don’t get clouded by spurious information. Yet, at the heart of what you write is a plausible explanation.

    We shall learn more. And, the professor who said long ago that he thought Trump would win before anyone else did also had a second prediction worth noting. He said Trump would also be impeached.

    Keith

    • Dear Keith, As you might guess there is more to this story which is unraveling. It turns out that the 2 pg dossier was leaked in part due to the FBI’s slow progress in investigating the gathered material from several sources. But it was from a former MI6 British agent with a decent reputation. That means each allegation needed to be checked out but FBI was dragging its feet.

      But now the US Inspector General will be officially looking into all of the FBI actions related to the 2016 US presidential elections.

      Ciao, Gronda

  2. Why does this imbecile even need to be president? He was already influencing foreign and domestic policy long before he even won the election, and has done sufficient damage ever since. I sincerely hope the allegations in this document prove to be true, or at least partly so. However, even in the face of incontrovertible proof, his followers will not likely be fazed. Thanks for the info! Hugs!

    • Gear Jill, There is hope. This dossier has somehow put the spotlight on the FBI dragging their feet on investigating the Russian connection. The MI6 ex agent (British) first sent the dossier to an FBI contact. Nothing was getting done. So then he made sure to get his report to Sen. John McCain who personally delivered it to FBI Director Comey. Now the US IG is investigating Director Comey and the FBI..I just blogged on this.

      There is a glimmer of hope.

      Hugs, Gronda

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