aside The President Is Being Held Accountable For Inciting Violence

During the 2016 campaign season, how many times did we hear the republican President Donald Trump yelling at a crowd of supporters to get that person out (protester) out of his sight, now? His anger was palpable.

So far, a judge is allowing a lawsuit to proceed which has been filed by protesters who were harmed by some of the president’s followers as they were escorted out of the rally vicinity.

It does seem as if the president’s actions were akin to yelling fire in a crowded area, where it was foreseeable that peoples would be hurt.

Here is the rest of the story…

On 4/1/17, Cathy M of the Daily Kos penned the following report, “(T)rump Incites Violence? Judge says suit can proceed.”

Excerpts:

talkingpointsmemo.com…

A federal judge in Kentucky is allowing a lawsuit by three protesters assaulted at a Donald Trump campaign rally last March to move forward, agreeing with the plaintiffs that Trump’s call from the podium for his supporters to “get ’em out of here” incited rally-goers to physically attack them.

The three protesters have sued Trump for incitement, vicarious liability, negligence, gross negligence, and recklessness.

… The opinion, from U.S. District Judge David J. Hale of the Western District of Kentucky, denied most of Trump’s motion to dismiss the charges, saying that his angry demand for the removal of the protesters was “particularly reckless.”

He cites testimony from one of the assailants—a known member of a white nationalist group—saying he began shoving the young African American woman protester after hearing Trump’s call to “get them out.”

Here’s another take on it:

http://www.courier-journal.com

A federal judge in Louisville said in a ruling that then-candidate Donald Trump incited the use of violence against three protesters when he told supporters at a campaign rally a year ago to “get ’em out of here.”

U. S. District Judge David J. Hale of the Western District of Kentucky also wrote in an opinion and order released Friday that because violence had broken out at a prior Trump rally and that known hate group members were in the Louisville crowd, Trump’s ordering the removal of an African American woman was “particularly reckless.”…

“I hope this is yet another wake-up call to Trumpster bullies, even if they don’t believe he’s in the wrong.”

As per a 4/1/17 Reuter’s report by Steve Bittenbender, “Three people who claim they were assaulted at a Donald Trump rally in Louisville, Kentucky, last month have filed a lawsuit against the Republican presidential candidate, saying he “incited a riot.”

“Molly Shah, Kashiya Nwanguma and Henry Brousseau filed the lawsuit on Thursday in Jefferson Circuit Court in Louisville, claiming that Trump’s repeated calls of “get them out” at a rally at the Kentucky International Convention Center on March 1 was intended to direct his supporters to “use unwanted, harmful physical force to remove protesters, including the plaintiffs.”

“The lawsuit also names as defendants the Trump campaign and three individuals who the plaintiffs claim assaulted them at the rally.”

“The three plaintiffs, all Louisville residents, claim they suffered physical injuries, emotional distress and humiliation, and are seeking unspecified damages, according to the lawsuit.”

“Peaceful protest is an American tradition, especially in the context of presidential politics,” Dan Canon, the attorney for the plaintiffs, told Reuters in a Twitter message. “But what you see all over the country, time and time again, is violence employed against protesters at Trump campaign events. These plaintiffs are saying ‘enough is enough,'”

Image result for photos trump at louisville ky rally“The lawsuit said Trump stopped his 30-minute speech five times to point out protesters and, in most cases, told supporters to “get ’em out of here,” according to the lawsuit.”

“The individuals named as defendants are Matthew Heimbach, described in the complaint as a Trump supporter and Ohio resident who is “affiliated with the Traditionalist Worker Party, a recognized hate group”; Alvin Bamberger, 75, described as a Trump supporter and an Ohio resident; and an unknown female.”

“According to the lawsuit, at the rally, Heimbach, who was wearing a Traditionalist Worker Party T-shirt, attacked Shah and Nwanguma. A spokesman for the Traditional Worker Party could not be reached.”

Image result for photos trump at louisville ky rally“A website for the Traditionalist Worker Party describes it as a grassroots political organization that believes, among other things, that “European-American identity is under constant attack.”

“The Southern Poverty Law Center, a non-profit organization that monitors groups it considers extremist, classifies the Traditionalist Worker Party as a white nationalist hate group.”

“According to the lawsuit, Nwanguma was assaulted by numerous protesters at the rally, of whom Heimbach and Bamberger were the most aggressive. Video of Nwanguma, a 21-year-old college student, being repeatedly pushed at the convention went viral after the rally, the lawsuit said.”

“The lawsuit also claims that Shah was assaulted by Heimbach and that Brousseau was assaulted by the unknown female defendant.”

19 comments

  1. These protesters may have a case. Although violent inciters can be found on both sides, during either campaign rallies, with cars and shops being burned.
    It’s also well known that George Soros had financed BLM and bussed in rioters to Trump rallies in order to provoke an incident. Who would have known that running for Prez is such nasty business!

    • Dear 1EarthUnited,

      I stayed at the home of a friend in Washington DC who voted for DT when I attended the Women’s March on 1/21/17. He swore that George Soros paid for all those women.protesters. I joked with him that I was waiting for the monies. I still haven’t seen a dime.

      This is a “fake news” story that you will only read on right wing media blogs/ papers. A 1/25/17 PolitiFact report by Jon Greenberg, written about Mr. Soros paying millions for the protesters to attend the “Women’s March,” called this claim a “pants on fire” lie.

      We are going to have to agree to disagree, respectfully on this claim.

      Ciao, Gronda

      • It’s actually not so hard to find out, just follow the money. According to Washington Post, which is clearly a
        pro-establishment MSM organization, Black Lives Matter received $100 million from liberal foundations.

        “That funding comes in addition to more than $33 million in grants to the Black Lives Matter movement from top Democratic Party donor George Soros through his Open Society Foundations, as well as grant-making from the Center for American Progress.”

        http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/aug/16/black-lives-matter-cashes-100-million-liberal-foun/

        Yes, I agree with you, there are plenty of “fake news” coming from the left and right, it is up to us as informed citizens to discern the truth. Personally, I am not for or against anyone, but like you, I do like to research the issues, try to get facts from both sides and decide for myself.

        I am well aware there are plenty of disinfo agents and shills out there disseminating false stories and propaganda to promote their own causes. I try not to buy into the drama & innuendos, stick with the facts.

        Honestly I haven’t heard of Soros financing the women’s march, he would have to pay off billions, which is quite improbable, so I would agree with you that’s fake news/ rumours. Besides, there’s no evidence that he did that.

        But WikiLeaks did show Soros’ financial dealings during the election campaign, retrieved from Hillary’s emails and John Podesta’s laptop. Now whether whether we are to believe these leaks or not is up to us. I do appreciate opposing points of view, and independent investigating like yours Gronda. Of course we all have our biases and opinions, but the bottom line, aren’t we all after the same thing – the truth?

    • It may be well known to folks who partake in FOX entertainment, however the truth in that statement is not a proven fact, and actually pale in comparison to the problems in 2008 when President Obama was elected. Sorry, but I simply do not accept your statement about Soros as being factual due to no hard facts having been provided. Here is a link to the events in 2008 for you consideration when comparing the actions of the anti tRump folks and the bigoted individuals protesting Obama in 2008!

      http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/305749-republicans-employ-double-standard-to-discredit

    • Dear Horty,

      DT was not looking to quietly escort the protesters out of the rally area. He was looking for trouble and I like you, hope he gets his just desserts.

      Thanks a million for all of your support and for this reblog.

      Hugs, Gronda

  2. How interesting that your first comment on this post comes from one of Putin’s bots. Notice how it starts by affirming your premise, creates false moral equivalency by mentioning violence on the left, and closes with a Soros based Conspiracy theory. It is astonishing to see evidence of what the FBI and CIA have described as Russian ‘Active Measures’ in our everyday lives.

    It’s mind boggling because I can’t believe that Putin’s ‘weapon’ is this stupid and obvious yet still manages to sucker 35% of the voters.

    • Dear Rob,

      This is a sad state of affairs. There are a lot of “fake news” stories out there. Too often, DT and friends have been caught publicly talking about things that could only be found on right wing sites which provided false information.

      Anyway, I am still waiting on my $1500. I made a sign that states this.

      Thanks a million times over for the reblog.

      Hugs, Gronda

  3. Thank you for taking you time to report on this case! I read it earlier on another site and was actually amused at some of the excuses made by the tRump supporters. Some people will never realize that while the 1st Amendment gives you the right to free speech, it does not absolve you from the responsibility of the results of those words. While I doubt that the verdict will be in favor of the defendants due to the region where the possible trial will be held, perhaps it will send a resounding message to King tRump that his words are expensive when spoken in haste and with hate in his heart!

    • Dear Crustyolemothman,

      Like you, I am just grateful that the judge did not dismiss this law suit, out of hand. This is an opportunity for the courts to send a message that undue violence is not acceptable especially in political forums where emotions run high.

      Ciao, Gronda

  4. Let’s hope he goes to trial! He definitely incited violence with his chanting against Hillary.

    • Dear Eths,

      He does need to be held legally liable for any violence done to others because of his inflammatory remarks at his campaign rallies where emotions were already at a fever pitch.

      Ciao, Gronda

  5. Gronda, I am reminded of two classy example of other Republicans, when Senator John McCain corrected the woman that Senator Obama was a fine man, we just differ on issues. I am also reminded when President George W. Bush shushed an audience, so a man could ask a provocative question, when the audience tried to drown him out. Class matters. When I think of our President and then candidate, the word “class’ is not the first thing I think of. And, that is unfortunate for all of us. Keith

    • Dear Keith,

      I keep saying that DT is the perfect example of the “ugly American. Just ask the German Chancellor, Angela Merkel. Her facial expressions when both were conducting a press conference, are priceless.

      Ciao, Gronda

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