aside Breaking News: President Shared Classified Data With Russians

LAVROV/ TRUMP/ KISLYAK/ TASS WAS PRESENT/ IF ANYTHING UNTOWARD WAS SAID, RUSSIA HAS A TAPE RECORDING

The republican President Donald Trump seems to be on the downward roller coaster ride of self-destruction and the ride hasn’t ended yet.

Remember all the fuss republicans raised about the democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton having possibly placed classified data at risk while she was Secretary of State (2009- 2013) because she had used a private server to transmit and receive work product emails. Her intent to do this was never proven because as per the state department’s protocol, any classified data was supposed to have already been separated out to be used via other secured systems. As audits have proven in the past, a certain percentage of the data that Hillary Clinton worked on via her private server would have been retroactively marked classified and in this case, 3 pieces slipped through which had not been marked with the standard heading of “CLASSIFIED.”  And nothing had been codified into law that barred Mrs. Clinton’s usage of a private server until after she left in 2014.

But now we find out that the president intentionally and openly shared classified data with Russian officials when they were his guests at the White House around 5/10/17. BUT NO, the president cannot be criminally charged as he is entitled to classify and de-classify data at will.

The National Security Adviser General H.R. McMaster did talk to the press where he appeared to be countering the occurrence of certain events which were not what had been reflected in the Washington Post article.

Image result for photos of president and russian visitors lavrov and kislyakOn 5/15/17, Greg Miller and Greg Jaffe of the Washington Post broke the following report, “Trump revealed highly classified information to Russian foreign minister and ambassador.”

Excerpts:

“President Trump revealed highly classified information to the Russian foreign minister and ambassador in a White House meeting last week, according to current and former U.S. officials, who said Trump’s disclosures jeopardized a critical source of intelligence on the Islamic State.”

“The information the president relayed had been provided by a U.S. partner through an intelligence-sharing arrangement considered so sensitive that details have been withheld from allies and tightly restricted even within the U.S. government, officials said.”

Image result for photos of president and russian visitors lavrov and kislyak“The partner had not given the US permission to share the material with Russia, and officials said Trump’s decision to do so endangers cooperation from an ally that has access to the inner workings of the Islamic State. After Trump’s meeting, senior White House officials took steps to contain the damage, placing calls to the CIA and the National Security Agency.”

“This is code-word information,” said a U.S. official familiar with the matter, using terminology that refers to one of the highest classification levels used by American spy agencies. Trump “revealed more information to the Russian ambassador than we have shared with our own allies.”

 

“One day after dismissing (5/9/17) Comey, Trump welcomed Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Ambassador Sergey Kislyak — a key figure in earlier Russia controversies — into the Oval Office. It was during that meeting, officials said, that Trump went off script and began describing details of an Islamic State terrorist threat related to the use of laptop computers on aircraft.”

“For almost anyone in government, discussing such matters with an adversary would be illegal. As president, Trump has broad authority to declassify government secrets, making it unlikely that his disclosures broke the law.”

“The president and the foreign minister reviewed common threats from terrorist organizations to include threats to aviation,” said H.R. McMaster, the national security adviser, who participated in the meeting. “At no time were any intelligence sources or methods discussed, and no military operations were disclosed that were not already known publicly.”

Image result for photos of president and russian visitors lavrov and kislyak“But officials expressed concern about Trump’s handling of sensitive information as well as his grasp of the potential consequences. Exposure of an intelligence stream that has provided critical insight into the Islamic State, they said, could hinder the United States’ and its allies’ ability to detect future threats.”

“It is shocking,” said a former senior U.S. official who is close to current administration officials. “Trump seems to be very reckless and doesn’t grasp the gravity of the things he’s dealing with, especially when it comes to intelligence and national security.”

“In his meeting with Lavrov, Trump seemed to be boasting about his inside knowledge of the looming threat. “I get great intel. I have people brief me on great intel every day,” the president said, according to an official with knowledge of the exchange.”

“Trump went on to discuss aspects of the threat that the United States learned only through the espionage capabilities of a key partner. He did not reveal the specific intelligence-gathering method, but he described how the Islamic State was pursuing elements of a specific plot and how much harm such an attack could cause under varying circumstances. Most alarmingly, officials said, Trump revealed the city in the Islamic State’s territory where the U.S. intelligence partner detected the threat.”

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Henry Kissinger (L)

“Everyone knows this stream is very sensitive, and the idea of sharing it at this level of granularity with the Russians is troubling,” said a former senior U.S. counter-terrorism official who also worked closely with members of the Trump national security team. He and others spoke on the condition of anonymity, citing the sensitivity of the subject.”

“The identification of the location was seen as particularly problematic, officials said, because Russia could use that detail to help identify the U.S. ally or intelligence capability involved. Officials said the capability could be useful for other purposes, possibly providing intelligence on Russia’s presence in Syria. Moscow would be keenly interested in identifying that source and possibly disrupting it.”

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lavrov/ tillerson

“Russia and the United States both regard the Islamic State as an enemy and share limited information about terrorist threats. But the two nations have competing agendas in Syria, where Moscow has deployed military assets and personnel to support President Bashar al-Assad.”

“Russia could identify our sources or techniques,” the senior U.S. official said. A former intelligence official who handled high-level intelligence on Russia said that given the clues Trump provided, “I don’t think that it would be that hard [for Russian spy services] to figure this out.”

“At a more fundamental level, the information wasn’t the United States’ to provide to others. Under the rules of espionage, governments — and even individual agencies — are given significant control over whether and how the information they gather is disseminated, even after it has been shared. Violating that practice undercuts trust considered essential to sharing secrets.”

“If that partner learned we’d given this to Russia without their knowledge or asking first, that is a blow to that relationship,” the U.S. official said.”

“Trump also described measures that the United States has taken or is contemplating to counter the threat, including military operations in Iraq and Syria, as well as other steps to tighten security, officials said.”

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“The officials would not discuss details of those measures, but the Department of Homeland Security recently disclosed that it is considering banning laptops and other large electronic devices from carry-on bags on flights between Europe and the United States. The United States and Britain imposed a similar ban in March affecting travelers passing through airports in 10 Muslim-majority countries.”

“Trump cast the countermeasures in wistful terms. “Can you believe the world we live in today?” he said, according to one official. “Isn’t it crazy.”

“Lavrov and Kislyak were also accompanied by aides.”

“A Russian photographer took photos of part of the session that were released by the Russian state-owned Tass news agency. No U.S. news organization was allowed to attend any part of the meeting.”

“Senior White House officials appeared to recognize quickly that Trump had overstepped and moved to contain the potential fallout.”

Image result for photos of president and russian visitors lavrov and kislyak“Thomas P. Bossert, assistant to the president for homeland security and counter-terrorism, placed calls to the directors of the CIA and the NSA, the services most directly involved in the intelligence-sharing arrangement with the partner.”

“U.S. officials said that the National Security Council continues to prepare multi-page briefings for Trump to guide him through conversations with foreign leaders, but that he has insisted that the guidance be distilled to a single page of bullet points — and often ignores those.”

“He seems to get in the room or on the phone and just goes with it, and that has big downsides,” the second former official said. “Does he understand what’s classified and what’s not? That’s what worries me.”

“I’m sure Kislyak was able to fire off a good cable back to the Kremlin with all the details” he gleaned from Trump, said the former U.S. official who handled intelligence on Russia.”

30 comments

  1. Perhaps we now understand why only a member of the Russian press was allowed to attend the meeting, and the U.S. press was not allowed! What’s next? Will he give Putin our nuclear codes? This is an outrage … or should I say, yet another outrage? He has damaged, perhaps irrevocably, our relationship with an ally, our trustworthiness will now be questioned by all our allies, and he cannot be charged??????

    • Dear Jill,

      He gave enough information to the Russians where they can figure out the source. Unless the US can rescue that person, his/ or life is at risk. How can our allies trust us?

      Hugs, Gronda

      • My thoughts exactly! How can WE even trust US??? I do not have a single shred of trust for anybody in the WH. I just saw that McMaster said the WaPo article was not true. I do not believe him.

        • Dear Jill,

          He was carefully parsing his words. He is not one who will be caught in a deliberate lie.

          For example he said DDT did not share sources and methods which technically is true but what DDT did do is provide enough data where the Russians can figure this out on their own.
          Hugs, Gronda

  2. Reblogged this on Filosofa's Word and commented:
    Last Wednesday Trump met with top Russian officials in the Oval Office. The Russian press was allowed in, the U.S. press was barred. This was noteworthy in and of itself, but in light of today’s news, it is more than highly suspect. Trump gave away highly classified information to the Russians on that day. Gronda, as I knew she would be, was on top of the story when it broke this afternoon in the Washington Post, and her post sums up everything we know to this point. This is too important to let slide by, so please take a few moments to read Gronda’s excellent post. I am sure she will update us as more information becomes available. Thank you for your excellent work, Gronda!

    • Dear Jill,

      This is just so shocking. It does need to be taken seriously and DDT cannot be allowed to be alone when talking to foreign dignitaries. To say DDT went off script is the understatement of the year.

      As always, thanks a million for the great introduction, for all of your support and for this reblog.

      Hugs, Gronda

  3. Dear Gronda: Remember the other day when the house passed their sort of, almost, just about health care bill during the celebration, tRump turned and said I’m the president, can you believe it, I’m the president? I wonder if he realizes that there are many of us that still can not accept that this nation elected this poor excuse for a man as the leader of this nation… At this point I still think that we have the best man that Putin could have ever installed into the position…

  4. “For almost anyone in government, discussing such matters with an adversary would be illegal.”

    — Perhaps that is the real issue, Trump does not view Russians as the enemy. Now that he has the power to legally share classified info with whomever he wants, I can see why most Americans call him Kremlin’s agent.
    Times have changed from the 60’s and the US is not in a cold war with Russia. Perhaps Trump was thinking a collaboration with Putin to end the fighting in Syria, and to defeat the Islamic State.

    Of course this is all speculation b/c unless we hear what was actually said in that conversation, it’s anybody’s guess… he does look chummy with the Russians tho.

    Oh goody, perhaps we can look forward to his next tweet! 😉

    • Dear 1EarthUnited,

      Here’s reality. The Russians and US interests are not aligned. For example the US tried to share US intel with Russia so that their planes could attack ISIS targets. Instead Russia attacked rebels on the US side.

      This is the reality that DDT refuses to face.The Russians are not our friends.

      Hugs, Gronda

  5. The man is an ass and a liability in the White House. No secret is safe. It’s ridiculous to have to read details of such meetings in TASS, the press should really go to town on him.
    Thanks for the details Gronda, we’re open mouthed with shock in the UK.
    xxx Huge Hugs xxx

    • Dear David Prosser,

      My fantasy would be to put peoples like DDT, Nigel Farage, Marine LePen, Vladimir Putin, Recep Tayyip Erdogan and others on an Island somewhere where they can be happy or they can just do each other in while we watch them on TV.

      All of this is just too surreal. After DDT has left office, “we the peoples” will need to be treated for PTSD (posttraumatic stress disorder) and then we need to tar and feather all of those republican legislators who were foolish enough to jump on the life raft with him.

      My thoughts are becoming way too dark.

      For all of you across the pond, thanks for your support.

      Ciao, Gronda

  6. Gronda, if true this is further validation of the mistrust that our allies and their and our intelligence officials have with this President. When our own allies say “be careful of what you share with the Americans,” that does not make us safer. It should be noted this quote is reportedly from an Israeli intelligence officer. Keith

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