aside Kushner Was Looking To Set Up Back Door Communications With Russia

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KUSHNER/ KISLYAK

Even before the republican President Donald Trump stepped into the White House, his son-in-law Jared Kushner was working behind the scenes to set up secure back door communications channels between the White House and Russian officials.

This detail along with a series of numerous other examples like where White House personnel withheld from their request for security clearance forms, any information regarding meetings they held in the past with Russian operatives, bars there being a benign explanation. Because of news reports, we now know that the president’s former NSA adviser, General Mike Flynn, the US Attorney General and his son-in-law Jared Kushner, all omitted data about their contacts with Russian representatives. Originally, General Flynn lied about the number of contacts and the content of what was said between himself and the US Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak which is why he was forced to resign in February 2017. Mr. Jeff Sessions lied during his confirmations hearings to qualify to become the next US attorney general, which is why he was obligated to recuse himself from the Department of Justice office’s investigations into the Trump-Russian saga.

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KISLYAK/ KUSHNER

Here is the rest of the story… 

On 5/26/27, Ellen Nakashima, Adam Entous and Greg Miller of the Washington Post penned the following post, “Russian ambassador told Moscow that Kushner wanted secret communications channel with Kremlin.”

Excerpts:

“Jared Kushner and Russia’s ambassador to Washington discussed the possibility of setting up a secret and secure communications channel between Trump’s transition team and the Kremlin, using Russian diplomatic facilities in an apparent move to shield their pre-inauguration discussions from monitoring, according to U.S. officials briefed on intelligence reports.”

Image result for photos of kislyak and kushner“Ambassador Sergei Kislyak reported to his superiors in Moscow that Kushner, son-in-law and confidant to then-President-elect Trump, made the proposal during a meeting on Dec. 1 or 2 at Trump Tower, according to intercepts of Russian communications that were reviewed by U.S. officials. Kislyak said Kushner suggested using Russian diplomatic facilities in the United States for the communications.”

“The meeting also was attended by Michael Flynn, Trump’s first national security adviser.”

Related image“The White House disclosed the fact of the meeting only in March, playing down its significance. But people familiar with the matter say the FBI now considers the encounter, as well as another meeting Kushner had with a Russian banker, to be of investigative interest.”

“Kislyak reportedly was taken aback by the suggestion of allowing an American to use Russian communications gear at its embassy or consulate — a proposal that would have carried security risks for Moscow as well as the Trump team.”

“Russia at times feeds false information into communication streams it suspects are monitored as a way of sowing misinformation and confusion among U.S. analysts. But officials said that it’s unclear what Kislyak would have had to gain by falsely characterizing his contacts with Kushner to Moscow, particularly at a time when the Kremlin still saw the prospect of dramatically improved relations with Trump.”Kushner’s apparent interest in establishing a secret channel with Moscow, rather than relying on U.S. government systems, has added to the intrigue surrounding the Trump administration’s relationship with Russia.

President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia and Sergey N. Gorkov, the chief of Vnesheconombank, The bank drew sanctions from the Obama administration after Russia annexed Crimea. Credit Alexei Nikolsky/Russian Presidential Office, via Getty Images (JARED KUSHNER HELD MEETING WITH SERGEY GORLOV.)

“The FBI closely monitors the communications of Russian officials in the United States, and it maintains a nearly constant surveillance of its diplomatic facilities. The National Security Agency monitors the communications of Russian officials overseas.”

“Current and former U.S. intelligence officials said that although Russian diplomats have secure means of communicating with Moscow, Kushner’s apparent request for access to such channels was extraordinary.”

Image result for photos of kislyak and kushner“How would he trust that the Russians wouldn’t leak it on their side?” said one former senior intelligence official. The FBI would know that a Trump transition official was going in and out of the embassy, which would cause “a great deal” of concern, he added. The entire idea, he said, “seems extremely naive or absolutely crazy.”

“The discussion of a secret channel adds to a broader pattern of efforts by Trump’s closest advisers to obscure their contacts with Russian counterparts. Trump’s first national security adviser, Flynn, was forced to resign after a series of false statements about his conversations with Kislyak. Attorney General Jeff Sessions recused himself from matters related to the Russia investigation after it was revealed that he had failed to disclose his own meetings with Kislyak when asked during congressional testimony about any contact with Russians.”

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KUSHNER/ GASLOV

“Kushner’s interactions with Russians — including Kislyak and an executive for a Russian bank under U.S. sanctions ( Sergey N. Gorkov, the chief of Vnesheconombank)— were not acknowledged by the White House until they were exposed in media reports.”

It is common for senior advisers of a newly elected president to be in contact with foreign leaders and officials. But new administrations are generally cautious in their handling of interactions with Moscow, which U.S. intelligence agencies have accused of waging an unprecedented campaign to interfere in last year’s presidential race and help elect Trump.”

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KISLYAK

“The State Department, the White House National Security Council and U.S. intelligence agencies all have the ability to set up secure communications channels with foreign leaders, though doing so for a transition team would be unusual.”

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Crown Prince of Abu Dhabi

“Trump’s advisers were similarly secretive about meetings with leaders from the United Arab Emirates. The Obama White House only learned that the crown prince of Abu Dhabi was flying to New York in December to see Kushner, Flynn and Stephen K. Bannon, another top Trump adviser, because U.S. border agents in the UAE spotted the Emirate leader’s name on a flight manifest.”

“Russia would also have had reasons of its own to reject such an overture from Kushner. Doing so would require Moscow to expose its most sophisticated communications capabilities — which are likely housed in highly secure locations at diplomatic compounds — to an American.”

“For instance, according to those officials and the letter, Kushner conveyed to the Russians that he was aware that it would be politically sensitive to meet publicly, but it was necessary for the Trump team to be able to continue their communication with Russian government officials.”

Related image“In addition to their discussion about setting up the communications channel, Kushner, Flynn and Kislyak also talked about arranging a meeting between a representative of Trump and a “Russian contact” in a third country whose name was not identified, according to the anonymous letter.”

“The Post reported in April that Erik Prince, the former founder of the private security firm Blackwater and an informal adviser to the Trump transition team, met on Jan. 11 — nine days before Trump’s inauguration — in the Seychelles islands in the Indian Ocean with a representative of Russian President Vladimir Putin.”

12 comments

  1. Dear Mz. Gronda,
    The dark web seems to think the ties to Russia go even deeper than we have touched on as of yet. The reading there is what caused me to state that Kushner was the other person in the oval office that was being looked at when we discussed it the other day. I drink my coffee black, so feel free to email me a cup of black coffee for winning the lottery! 😉

    One point that has not been discussed at all is the possible meeting of tRump with any of the Russians, the dark web seems to suggest that he did prior to his deciding to run for the office. We need to watch for any news about that in the next few weeks. Despite all the evidence that has been revealed at this time, the tRump fanz still blame the liberal fake news sources for all his problems. I still have a very strong gut feeling that the GOPTP congress will not do anything to remove him from office, if for no other reason the loss of power and status would be unthinkable to them.

    • Dear Crustyolemothman,

      I OWE YOU MORE THAN A CUP OF COFFEE! You have been right on Jared Kushner, all along. I have finally gotten to the point where you have been.

      There is the defense being set up for Mr. Kushner that he is naive, inexperienced, etc. I JUST DIDN’T GIVE HIM MUCH CREDIT FOR HIS ACUMEN.

      I am now believing that he is not clever but he is a crook. He just didn’t know how to be crooked in a clever way where his deeds would not be so easily uncovered.

      The IC community is leaking like a sieve. So, you are probably right in that more will be made public about DDT’s connections to Russia.

      Ciao, Gronda

      • Mz. Gronda, While the president does have immunity for most crimes during his tenure, does that same immunity extend to the vice president? I have looked and can’t find an answer that is backed by statute. I suppose the reason that I am curious is that Pence is up to his eye balls in this whole scheme to destroy this nation for unknown reasons. The problem that the GOPTP has is if they impeach tRump, they will more or less be forced to impeach Pence as well, due to his being complicit in the alleged criminal acts. While most people assume that Ryan would simply become president, that is, according to most scholars, not necessarily true and they are saying that he would only hold the position on a temporary basis until a new president could be chosen by the senate. I have read the statute and it is very vague, I suppose because no one actually envisioned that this nation would ever come to the stage that it could happen…

        • Dear Crustyolemothman,

          I am not ready to go there yet. I agree with you on your analysis about VP Pence. He is just more polished but he is still a fake.

          I want them both out and the republicans who supported them, all out on their ears.

          What I really want is another election but according to the famous attorney Lawrence Tribe, this option is not provided for in the constitution.

          Ciao, Gronda

  2. You know I understand Trump thinking he can get away with…well…murder, but I honestly don’t understand why someone like Kushner would do this and think he’d get away with it. Honestly Gronda, I’m getting more discouraged by the day. The people that support him either don’t care or just blame the media for “fake news”. God! If I hear that term o n e more time I’m going to crack a tooth from my grinding. The Republicans in Congress will NEVER vote to impeach, and even if there’s a slight chance they do, it’s going to further split this country. And the Democrats seriously need to come up with a game plan that consists of something more than “resist”. Otherwise we’re going to be stuck with eight years of back door deals with Russia, millions of people getting kicked off health insurance, immigrants being deported who shouldn’t be, and a toddler-in-chief who gets more and more out of control. I’m sorry for the rant. It’s late and my head hurts.😒

    • Dear Kim,

      You are right on with your thinking. The democrats are riding on the back of the resistance movement but that is not enough. They need to articulate what they really stand for,beyond this.

      I am disappointed in the news about Jared Kushner as I had hoped he would be DDT’S better angel against the likes of Steve Bannon. Instead he is just not a very clever crook. His judgement is less than brilliant. He is the one who pushed for the firing of the FBI Director Comey.

      Hugs, Gronda

      • Phew. I thought this was me just whining. I’m glad you brought that up about Kushner being instrumental in getting Comey fired Gronda. That really shocked the heck out of me. It didn’t make any sense to me at the time and then after WaPo came out with that “person of interest” story, the more I thought about it, Kushner started looking more and more like the likely suspect.

        • Dear Kim,

          I am afraid that Jared is a not so clever man who is also a crook and a liar, and I shudder at the thought, he is a registered democrat.

          Hugs, Gronda

  3. Dear Mz. Gronda,
    I’m going to go out on a very flimsy limb and make a prediction about the future of this investigation. It will not be the “Russian Thing” that causes the fall of the great and mighty tRump and his family, it will be Money Laundrying that will be his down fall! James Comey, according to the rumor mills was not looking as hard at the Russian connection as the main stream press was indicating, but was instead concentrating on the flow of money into the tRump businesses and campaign. Time will tell if my prediction is true, but if it is, it will allow the GOPTP to save face to a degree, as they can plead ignorance to his actions as a business person! They then could actually impeach him with less harm to the party, the fly in the ointment will be Pence and his involvement, how do they deal with that, or do they attempt to ignore it and hope the voters don’t notice?

    Now, for your reading entertainment, while this is not a great source, and I would not want to use them in church or a court of law, they do have some factual information that is very applicable in this investigation. I will note, that most of this has been known by those of us who have followed this man since the first time he ran for the office of the president in the late 90’s! 😉

    • Dear Crustyolemothman,

      Thanks for the reference. I wonder if peoples started yelling, lock him up, if he would think this slogan, unfair.

      Money laundering would probably be easier to prove but I still want the skinny on Russia nefarious activities regarding this country.

      Ciao, Gronda

  4. Speaking from a European perspective and thus a heritage of 6 centuries of political twists and turns, if even one-half of this is found to be true I am still staggered at the sheer hapless naivety.
    I have said this before, but it bears repeating ‘Russia does as Russia is’ (or the other way around if you like); this is said in a purely analytical way. For centuries her policy has always been directed to ensure the stability of her own borders and never mind the smaller neighbours or who she deals with. It is how things are.
    Thus Russia will naturally use any tool to further her aims (actually us in Britain were ‘splendid’ at this in the 19th Century) and anyone who goes into a deal without eyes wide-open is to use the Russian term ‘polezni durak’ (the useful fool).
    Unless the other party is equally adept at ‘The Old Game’, there is a price to pay.
    Back-door with Russia without your full state apparatus agreeing and backing you up? As you say in the US ‘Give me a break! ‘
    Lambs to the slaughter, Lambs to the slaughter.

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