aside Is There A Worldwide Pattern Developing With Vehicular And Knife Stabbings As Seen In The UK?

Image result for photos of london bridge attackOn March 22, 2017, there was the Westminister attack where Khalid Masood, a 52-year-old British man, born in Kent as Adrian Elms, drove a car into pedestrians on Westminster Bridge, before crashing the vehicle into the Palace of Westminister perimeter. Later, he fatally stabbed a police officer before being shot himself. Six, including the perpetrator and the officer, were killed in the incident, and 49 people were injured. On May 23, 2017, at a UK Manchester concert arena, there was an explosive blast that killed 22 attendees including children along with 59 injured. On June 3, 2017, there was another terrorist attack by vehicle and knife stabbings on the London Bridge and Borough Market where 7 were fatally wounded and 48 injured with over 20 being in critical condition. So in three months there have been three terrorist attacks  by Muslims in the UK with the weapons of choice being a vehicle, knives and explosive material.

So far, the culprits have been mostly homegrown idiots who have been radicalized and not refugees from the countries listed on President Trump’s travel ban. None of these tragedies would have been prevented by the US republican President Donald Trump’s travel ban being challenged in the US court systems.

Below, there are links to the latest data, some background details and my thoughts about detecting a pattern with these terrorist assaults.

.AYoussef Zaghba.s per the June 6, 2017 Guardian report, “Live London attack: third attacker named in Italian media as Moroccan-Italian Youssef Zaghba – live” by Robert Booth, Vikram Dodd and Stephanie Kirchgaessner, “The third London Bridge attacker has been named as Youssef Zaghba, a 22-year old son of an Italian mother and Moroccan father who was reportedly stopped at Bologna airport in 2016 bound for Syria via Turkey.”

“According to reports in the Italian newspaper Corriere della Serra, he had been recently working in a restaurant in London. He was reported to have been on Italy’s list of persons at risk.”

“Police sources said he was not on the radar of counter-terrorism investigators, but the paper reported that Italian authorities had alerted British and Moroccan authorities about his frequent movements.”

As per the June 5, 2017 DailyMail.co.uk news report,  “The London Bridge killer slipped through the net despite being reported to the police twice for extremism including trying to twist the minds of children he bribed with sweets and cash, it was revealed today.”

“The security services face difficult questions because 27-year-old Muslim ringleader, Khuram Butt (UK citizen, Pakistani born) known to friends as ‘Abz’, even appeared in a Channel 4 documentary last year about British jihadists and unfurled an ISIS-style flag in Regent’s Park.”

“He was also caught on camera alongside two notorious preachers who were well known to police and intelligence officials because of their extremist views.”

“A friend of Butt called the anti-terror hotline because he became obsessed with watching hate preacher videos on YouTube and police were later warned he was trying to radicalize children in a local park and giving them treats to listen to him”.

“Another of the friends has been named as Rachid Redouane (Morrocan-Lybian background) – believed to be a pastry chef living in Ireland having married a Scottish wife – who was not on anyone’s radar as a terrorist and also used the name Rachid Elkhdar, claiming to be six years younger. ”

Image result for photos of london bridge attackOn 6/4/17, Leon Watson and Helena Horton of Telegraph penned the following report, “London Bridge attack latest: Theresa May says ‘enough is enough’ after seven are killed.”


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“Theresa May has warned that Britain is in the grip of a spate of copycat terror attacks in the wake of the London Bridge atrocity.”

“The Prime Minister delivered a stark assessment of the threat facing the UK after seven people were murdered and dozens more injured by three terrorists on Saturday night.”

“It was the third terrorist outrage to hit the country this year following the Westminster and Manchester attacks.”

“Speaking outside Downing Street, Mrs May said that although there was no direct link between the three incidents, “terrorism breeds terrorism”.

“Earlier, Scotland Yard revealed the death toll from the terrorist attack in London Bridge has risen to seven and almost 50 were injured.”

“Attackers brought carnage to the streets of the capital, stabbing a police officer and revelers with 12-inch knives, reportedly shouting “this is for Allah”.

Image result for photos of london bridge attack“Police were called at around 10.08 pm to reports of a vehicle striking pedestrians on London Bridge.”

“The white van then continued to drive to Borough Market. Three men then left the vehicle and began to stab people, including a British Transport Police Officer.”

“The suspects were confronted and shot by police at Borough Market within eight minutes of the first call being made.”

“In addition to seven fatalities, 48 people are being treated in hospital after being injured in the attack.”

“It is the third terrorist atrocity in Britain in less than three months after the Westminster and Manchester attacks in March and May.””

Image result for photos of london bridge attackI AM DETECTING A POSSIBLE PATTERN. In England there have been 3 forms of terrorism utilized over 3 separate events within 3 months, the knife, the vehicle and the explosion.

This is also true in the USA. Within the past few months, there have been acts of terror with the explosion, the vehicle and knife stabbings.

In the USA, the terrorist group of choice is the White Supremacist. IN Europe, the terrorist association of choice is ISIS. Yet, in the USA, the republican President Donald Trump refuses to treat the White Supremacists as a terrorist group even though its members have been guilty of numerous hate crimes/ acts of terrorism.

The terrorist choice for messaging on the internet for a version of twitter is the “telegram,” a Russian company based in Germany.

Image result for photos of london bridge attackThe following write up is based on a 2013 Techcrunch.com article:

Created by the founders of Russia’s biggest social networking platform, Telegram is a new messaging app that offers speed, security and features such as secret chats with end-to-end encryption and self-destructing messages.

Brothers Nikolai and Pavel Durov, who launched VK (originally called VKontakte) in 2006, began working on Telegram 18 months ago as a research project because they wanted to create something that was “really secure and fun at the same time.” The importance of Telegram was underscored when Edward Snowden’s revelations about NSA and PRISM were first made public in June.

Image result for photos of london bridge attackThis is from 2014 FreeBeacon.com blog:

Propaganda and media accounts associated with the Islamic State of Iraq and Levant (ISIL or ISIS) are now being hosted by a Russian social media platform after the terror group was thrown off U.S. sites such as Twitter, according to a new intelligence report.

At least 18 official ISIL accounts responsible for disseminating the group’s violent propaganda, including two videos of Americans being beheaded, are currently being hosted by the VK website, Russia’s largest social network, according to an intelligence brief released by the SITE Intelligence Group.

VK, which resembles Facebook, has upwards of 250 million subscribers and is known for hosting the social media site of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, who, along with his brother Tamerlan, executed the April 2013 bombing of the Boston Marathon.

Image result for photos of london bridge attackACCORDING TO A 2015 Atlantic report, these sites are now also favored by White Supremacist groups.

Both these Russian entities have claimed that groups like ISIS are being kicked off, but credible watchdog groups give both above described Russian systems, failing or very poor grades.

The question I am asking, are there investigation teams in the UK or the USA following these social internet sites?

Are these social internet sites psychologically warping the users to act out to commit acts of terror? Is it possible that the actors of terror are somehow being encouraged by Russian operatives? What better way to sow chaos, discord, fear etc than by inciting these terrorist group members? Could this be an attempt to influence UK’s election’s outcome? Has anyone else picked up on a possible pattern?

16 comments

  1. Gronda, good post. I find it interesting that what the President proposes, as you state, would not have stopped these terrorists. He also made an inane remark about the absence of guns. Here in America guns are far easier to obtain, so a similarly motivated terrorist would tend to use a gun here.

    A tangential issue was reported on John Oliver’s show “Last Week Tonight.” He noted that the English are tired of American sensationalism saying “London is reeling.” They are not. They are pissed off, but carrying on. They will not let these terrorists change their lives. I thought that spoke volumes. Keith

    • Keith, Can you for just a moment consider how many people would have died had the attack occurred in this nation? Good King tRump does not consider the possibility that he is actually encouraging people to commit acts like this, but using guns instead of knives! The over abundance of guns in this nation is even more reason for the average person to have and to hold fear of attack!!

      Welcome back Mz. Gronda! You were missed!!

    • Dear Keith,

      John Oliver said what the president and his surrogates should be saying. London will recover. I am waiting for the voting results for the election that PM Ms Mays has called. I pray that it is shown that the outcome has not been influenced by the recent acts of terrorism.

      Ciao, Gronda

      • Gronda, the outcome will be interesting, but she should win. The question is whether she will lose or gain more seats. Who knows these days with elections and Mr. Putin’s fondness for disrupting? My guess is he played a hand in Brexit and will try to influence the German elections as he did with France. So, will he bother with this one? Keith

  2. I’ve read anecdotally that the Russians have sights for white supremacists, etc. so it’s not much of a leep to think they support other terrorists. It’s disgusting. Just in the last couple days I’ve seen Russian news articles from Tass.

    • Dear CarolMaeWY,

      I have decided to hang out at the beach until Friday or maybe, even Saturday and so I apologize for not responding sooner to your message..

      I found your message. It had been marked for requiring moderation which the system does on occasion.

      I would not be surprised if Russians are targeting both groups of terrorists, White Supremacists and those identifying with ISIS with the intent to sow discord and to divide nations (NATO AND G7) countries.

      I am interested in the upcoming UK election results after the spat of 3 acts of terrorism in the UK. I am hoping that the UK voters see through these attempts to influence election outcomes.

      Ciao, Gronda

  3. good article Gronda, excellent sources. I believe ISIS and others have been instigating these kinds of spontaneous or impromptu stabbings and miscellaneous homegrown attacks, like driving vehicles into crowds. This amateur-hour tactics are effective because anyone who commits one of these heinous acts of terrorism earn a pat on the head from ISIS, et al. Any attack brings a lot of attention and publicity.

    • Dear Gradmama2011,

      I am planning to hang out at the beach until Friday or maybe, even Saturday and so I apologize for not responding more quickly to your message.

      These orchestrated attacks are intended to sow discord and division within the NATO (G7) countries.

      In the US, the terrorists of choice would be the White Supremacists.

      I just pray that all of our countries show a united front, so that these tactics are proven to be ineffective.

      Hugs, Gronda

      • “independent contractors” create chaos and fear, even when perpetrated on a lone basis and ISIS claims responsibility. The less publicity about these cases the better… when some punk shoots up a school, like as not he is impressed by attention paid to some other punk shooter. Turning these people into folk-heroes is not the way to go.

  4. YEs, there is a pattern of sick individuals using vehicles as weapons. Yet we choose to ignore those in this country who use guns as weapons because FREEDUMB!!! THe worst mass murder of the year barely raised an eyebrow because a) a gun was the weapon, and b) the person involved didn’t fir the latest FEAR INC pattern of using a vehicle.

    THe more troubling trend is that the MSM wets themselves over each attack like the one in London in order to keep the sheeple in line here, ready to eagerly swallow the latest batch of shit that they will force-feed us on how dangerous the world is and that only by continuing the failed policies of military type responses will ever change it. This is the textbook definition of insanity.

    Orwell would be proud.

    • Dear Dreamer9177,

      Here in the USA, it is much easier to purchase guns than it is in Europe. And this is why I have been just pondering over the possibility of a pattern in the US with White Supremacists and those who are supporters of ISIS in Europe.

      It is a concern of mine that both these group of terrorists are gathering at the social sharing sites of “telegram” and VK which are Russian owned entities which almost never kick off the sites hate group members..

      Ciao, Gronda

  5. I’ve heard and read the sympathizers of ISIS are told to use whatever is handy to attack others. Also as ISIS is being destroyed in the Mideast some are escaping back to the west and killing there. In other words, the rats are deserting the sinking ship and carrying the plague back home with them. Trump knows or must suspect many white supremacists are followers of his and he doesn’t want to lose them and their friends. —- Suzanne

    • Dear Suzanne,

      You are onto something. Now that ISIS is being pummeled, its leaders need to demonstrate their ability to incite acts of terrorism abroad. This would be its “last hurrah.”

      The US national security interests are being compromised as the president refuses to classify White Supremacists as a terrorist organization.

      Hugs, Gronda

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