aside My Theory On How Events Unfolded Around 6/9/16 Meeting With Trump Jr. and Russian lawyer


The following depiction of events pertaining to the Trump-Russia saga is “fake news.” It is MY hypothesis only.

Cliff Notes Review On Events Around 6/9/16…

On June 3, 2016, Donald Trump Jr. received an email from a third party with the following message as per the 7/11/17 NYT report, “One of his father’s former Russian business partners had been contacted by a senior Russian government official and was offering to provide the Trump campaign with dirt on Hillary Clinton.”

“The documents “would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father,” read the email, written by a trusted intermediary, who added, “This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.”

Image result for photos of manafort kushner donald trump jr“He replied within minutes: “If it’s what you say I love it especially later in the summer.”

“Four days later, after a flurry of emails, the intermediary wrote back, proposing a meeting in New York on Thursday(6/9/16) with a “Russian government attorney.”

“Donald Trump Jr. agreed, adding that he would likely bring along “Paul Manafort (campaign boss)” and “my brother-in-law,” Jared Kushner, now one of the president’s closest White House advisers.”

“And the meeting was held on June 9, 2016 at Trump Towers with the above 4 players and the Russian Attorney, Natalia Veselnitskaya.”

“My theory of what went down…

Pre- 2016, there are two pertinent events.

In 2013 Donald Trump hosted the Miss Universe Contest. His Russian partner for this event was Aras Agalarov, a real estate tycoon, sometimes called the “Donald Trump of Russia.” His son Emin is a Russian pop star who participated in this event. And Emin’s agent was Rob Goldstone, the author of the emails sent to Donald Trump Jr. starting on 6/3/16.

In 2014 Aras Agalarov and the Trump family made a concerted effort to develop a Trump property in Moscow. The plans for this dream fell through because of the Russian economy experiencing a downturn resulting from the 2014 US sanctions imposed on it as a penalty for Russia’s 2014 unprovoked invasion and illegal annexation of Crimea, Ukraine.

Image result for photos of trump at 2013 miss universe contest moscowAround June 3, 2016 is when a voice from the past, Rob Goldstone forwards the email to set up the meet for Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner and Paul Manafort and the Russian government attorney. The Russsian lawyer was present at this meeting to feel out how receptive the Trump’s campaign principal players would be in accepting assistance from Russia to catapult their Dad into the White House.

The DNC had already been hacked by Russian operatives (Fancy Bear in April 2016) where Russia was in possession of more compromising emails and information that had not yet been leaked but which was enough to paint their Dad’s opponent in a very unflattering light. The Russian operative explained that the Kremlin would be willing to help boost their Dad’s chances of winning. At the time she did not have the goods, as she wouldn’t place herself in this vulnerable position without having first met Donald Trump Jr. and Jared Kushner.  She had been sent to feel out the Trump’s willingness to work with Russia.

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At this point Donald Trump Jr. lets her know what the campaign needed which was as much dirt on the democratic presidential candidate, Hillary Clinton as Russia could dig up. In return the lawyer let them know what she wanted which was to do away with the 2012 US Magnitsky Act, an American law that blacklists suspected Russian human rights abusers. The 2012 law so enraged Mr. Putin that he halted American adoptions of Russian children.”

President Putin’s  adoption ban of Russian children by Americans is a frequently used talking point for opponents of the Magnitsky Act. Ms. Veselnitskaya’s is well known for her lobbying activities against the implementation of this law, She had also made several attempts to discredit the hero after whom the law was named, Sergei L. Magnitsky, a lawyer and auditor who died in mysterious circumstances in a Russian prison in 2009 after exposing one of the biggest corruption scandals during President Putin’s rule.

The issue of helping Russia with the lifting of sanctions against Russia was either discussed at that time or soon after but sometime before July 18, 2016.

Image result for PHOTOS OF PAUL MANAFORT AT CAMPAIGNAround  July 18, 2016 the Trump campaign team folks were already at work to water down words in the republican’s platform pertaining to the arming of Ukrainians. At the time President Trump was denying that anyone from his campaign was involved with the new Republican platform which no longer called for giving weapons to Ukraine to fight Russian and rebel forces.

Then around July 27, 2016, at a press conference, the then republican presidential candidate said the following “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 (Hillary Clinton deleted) emails that are missing, I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”

Khizr Khan and his wife, the parents of a Muslim American soldier, Capt. Humayun S. M. Khan/ Damon Winter/The New York Times

Around mid-July 2016, my recollection is that this was when Wiki-leaks started dumping embarrassing emails about the DNC’s treatment of Senator Bernie Sanders who had been a contender for the democrat’s nomination to be its presidential candidate.

On July 18, hacker Guccifer 2.0 released a new batch of documents obtained / hacked/ stolen from DNC servers. One Memo was released directly to the Hill publication. This memo was just one of several documents released by Guccifer 2.0 that proved to be embarrassing. It detailed how the Democratic National Committee (DNC) rigged the system to be in favor of Hillary Clinton. “However, (as per Wikipedia), cybersecurity experts and firms, including CrowdStrikeFidelis CybersecurityMandiantSecureWorksThreatConnect, and the editor for Ars Technica, have rejected the claims of “Guccifer 2.0” and have determined, on the basis of substantial evidence, that the cyberattacks were committed by two Russian state-sponsored groups (Cozy Bear and Fancy Bear).Image result for photos of manafort kushner donald trump jr

After this time frame, WikiLeaks continued to periodically dump more compromising data harmful to Hillary Clinton from Russia’s stash of  hacked emails from DNC and Hillary Clinton’s campaign manager’s John Podesta’s computer systems.

Note: This blog was updated on July 12, 2017.

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Full Text, Analysis: Donald Trump Jr. Emails On Meeting With Lawyer ……7/11/17


  1. “She had been sent to feel out the Trump’s willingness to work with Russia.”
    Now that is very possible, as that’s how spies and foreign operatives are trained and deployed. Also there’s plausible deniability on Russia’s part b/c Ms. Natalia Veselnitskaya did not actually disclose any real intel. It was strictly a reconnaissance mission to feel out their sleeper candidate. Mission accomplished.


    • Dear !EarthUnited,

      It only makes sense. She wasn’t going to have anything on her person in case The Trump family had called in the FBI, for example. She was not going to say one word that could be construed as compromising for Russia, until the Donald Trump Jr. hung himself with his own words.

      Hugs, Gronda


  2. I strongly suspect that your speculation is more accurate than not. This whole thing has my head spinning, and I have one statement to make: There is NO WAY that Donald Trump, Sr. did not know about any of this. Not with both his son and son-in-law, plus his then-advisor involved. He knew. Thanks again for all your great research into this, Gronda!

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