aside President Grants NY Times An Impromptu Interview On 12/28/17

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On 12/28/17, for some unknown reason, the republican President Donald J. Trump decided to grant an impromptu interview with the New York Times reporter, Michael S. Schmidt. I suspect this impulsive action did not have the approval of his attorneys. It is my opinion that the president appears to be delusional as when he describes democrats having made up the Russian story up as a hoax, as a ruse, as an excuse for losing an election. He repeats over a dozen times, that there has been no collusion between him, personally and any Russians regarding the 2016 presidential elections. What I found most chilling was his comment, ” I have absolute right to do what I want to do with the Justice Department.”

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On December 28, 2017, the New York Times published the following report, “Excerpts From Trump’s Interview With The Times.”

“President Trump spoke on Thursday with a reporter from The New York Times, Michael S. Schmidt. The interview took place in the Grill Room of his golf club in West Palm Beach, Fla., whose noise made some portions at times hard to hear.”

“The following are excerpts from that conversation, transcribed by The Times. They have been lightly edited for content and clarity, and omit several off-the-record comments and asides.”

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“The interview started with a discussion of an interview Mr. Schmidt conducted with Mr. Trump in July, when Mr. Trump said he would not have appointed Jeff Sessions aattorney general had he known that Mr. Sessions would recuse himself from the Russia investigation.”

DONALD J. TRUMP: “I thought it was a terrible thing he did. [Inaudible.] I thought it was certainly unnecessary, I thought it was a terrible thing. But I think it’s all worked out because frankly there is absolutely no collusion, that’s been proven by every Democrat is saying it.”

MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT: “You’re O.K. with me recording, right?”

TRUMP: “Yeah. Virtually every Democrat has said there is no collusion. There is no collusion. And even these committees that have been set up. If you look at what’s going on — and in fact, what it’s done is, it’s really angered the base and made the base stronger. My base is stronger than it’s ever been. Great congressmen, in particular, some of the congressmen have been unbelievable in pointing out what a witch hunt the whole thing is. So, I think it’s been proven that there is no collusion.”

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“And by the way, I didn’t deal with Russia. I won because I was a better candidate by a lot. I won because I campaigned properly and she didn’t. She campaigned for the popular vote. I campaigned for the Electoral College. And you know, it is a totally different thing, Mike. You know the Electoral College, it’s like a track star. If you’re going to run the 100-yard dash, you work out differently than if you’re going to run the 1,000 meters or the mile.”

“And it’s different. It’s in golf. If you have a tournament and you have match play or stroke play, you prepare differently, believe it or not. It’s different. Match play is very different than stroke play. And you prepare. So I went to Maine five times, I went to [inaudible], the genius of the Electoral College is that you go to places you might not go to.”

SCHMIDT: “You would have run completely differently.”

TRUMP: “It would have been a whole different thing. The genius is that the popular vote is a much different form of campaigning. Hillary never understood that.”

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SCHMIDT: “What’s your expectation on Mueller? When do you” —

TRUMP: “I have no expectation. I can only tell you that there is absolutely no collusion. Everybody knows it. And you know who knows it better than anybody? The Democrats. They walk around blinking at each other.”

SCHMIDT: “But when do you think he’ll be done in regards to you” —

TRUMP: I don’t know.”

TRUMP: “It doesn’t bother me because I hope that he’s going to be fair. I think that he’s going to be fair. And based on that [inaudible]. There’s been no collusion. But I think he’s going to be fair. And if he’s fair — because everybody knows the answer already, Michael. I want you to treat me fairly. O.K.?”

TRUMP: “Everybody knows the answer already. There was no collusion. None whatsoever.”

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TRUMP: “Maybe I’ll just say a little bit of a [inaudible]. I’ve always found Paul Manafort to be a very nice man. And I found him to be an honorable person. Paul only worked for me for a few months. Paul worked for Ronald Reagan. His firm worked for John McCain, worked for Bob Dole, worked for many Republicans for far longer than he worked for me. And you’re talking about what Paul was many years ago before I ever heard of him. He worked for me for — what was it, three and a half months?”

SCHMIDT: A very short period of time.

TRUMP: “Three and a half months. [Inaudible] So, that’s that. Let’s just say — I think that Bob Mueller will be fair, and everybody knows that there was no collusion. I saw Dianne Feinstein the other day on television saying there is no collusion. She’s the head of the committee. The Republicans, in terms of the House committees, they come out, they’re so angry because there is no collusion. So, I actually think that it’s turning out — I actually think it’s turning to the Democrats because there was collusion on behalf of the Democrats. There was collusion with the Russians and the Democrats. A lot of collusion.”

SCHMIDT: “Dossier?”

TRUMP: “Starting with the dossier. But going into so many other elements. And Podesta’s firm.”

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SCHMIDT: “That’s true. But in terms of, the lawyers said it would be done by, your guys said, it would be done by Thanksgiving, it would be done by Christmas. What are they telling you now? What are they telling you?”

TRUMP: [Inaudible.] “There was tremendous collusion on behalf of the Russians and the Democrats. There was no collusion with respect to my campaign. I think I’ll be treated fairly. Timing wise, I can’t tell you. I just don’t know. But I think we’ll be treated fairly.”

TRUMP: “Well, I think it’s bad for the country. The only thing that bothers me about timing, I think it’s a very bad thing for the country. Because it makes the country look bad, it makes the country look very bad, and it puts the country in a very bad position. So the sooner it’s worked out, the better it is for the country.”

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“But there is tremendous collusion with the Russians and with the Democratic Party. Including all of the stuff with the — and then whatever happened to the Pakistani guy, that had the two, you know, whatever happened to this Pakistani guy who worked with the D.N.C.?”

“Whatever happened to them? With the two servers that they broke up into a million pieces? Whatever happened to him? That was a big story. Now all of sudden [inaudible]. So I know The New York Times is going to — because those are real stories. Whatever happened to the Hillary Clinton deleted 33,000 emails after she got [inaudible] — which you guys wrote, but then you dropped — was that you?”

SCHMIDT: “You control the Justice Department. Should they reopen that email investigation?”

TRUMP: “What I’ve done is, I have absolute right to do what I want to do with the Justice Department. But for purposes of hopefully thinking I’m going to be treated fairly, I’ve stayed uninvolved with this particular matter.”

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TRUMP: “For purposes of the Justice Department, I watched Alan Dershowitz the other day, who by the way, says I, says this is a ridiculous “—

SCHMIDT: “He’s been very good to you.”

TRUMP: “He’s been amazing. And he’s a liberal Democrat. I don’t know him. He’s a liberal Democrat. I watched Alan Dershowitz the other day, he said, No. 1, there is no collusion, No. 2, collusion is not a crime, but even if it was a crime, there was no collusion. And he said that very strongly. He said there was no collusion. And he has studied this thing very closely. I’ve seen him a number of times. There is no collusion, and even if there was, it’s not a crime. But there’s no collusion. I don’t even say [inaudible]. I don’t even go that far.”

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TRUMP: “So for the purposes of what’s going on with this phony Russian deal, which, by the way, you’ve heard me say it, is only an excuse for losing an election that they should have won, because it’s very hard for a Republican to win the Electoral College. O.K.? You start off with New York, California and Illinois against you. That means you have to run the East Coast, which I did, and everything else. Which I did and then won Wisconsin and Michigan. [Inaudible.] So the Democrats. … [Inaudible.] … They thought there was no way for a Republican, not me, a Republican, to win the Electoral College. Well, they’re [inaudible]. They made the Russian story up as a hoax, as a ruse, as an excuse for losing an election that in theory Democrats should always win with the Electoral College. The Electoral College is so much better suited to the Democrats [inaudible]. But it didn’t work out that way. And I will tell you they cannot believe that this became a story.”

SCHMIDT: “So they had to do this to come after you, to undercut you?”

TRUMP: “No, no, they thought it would be a one-day story, an excuse, and it just kept going and going and going. It’s too bad Jeff recused himself. I like Jeff, but it’s too bad he recused himself. I thought. … Many people will tell you that something is [inaudible].”

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SCHMIDT: “Do you think Holder was more loyal to”. …

TRUMP: “I don’t want to get into loyalty, but I will tell you that, I will say this: Holder protected President Obama. Totally protected him. When you look at the I.R.S. scandal, when you look at the guns for whatever, when you look at all of the tremendous, ah, real problems they had, not made-up problems like Russian collusion, these were real problems. When you look at the things that they did, and Holder protected the president. And I have great respect for that, I’ll be honest, I have great respect for that.”

SCHMIDT: “Tell me about what you were saying that the Democrats. … [Inaudible.] … Tell me about the Democrats on the tax bill, which you were telling me about. Explain that to me, I thought that was interesting.”

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TRUMP: “So. … We started taxes. And we don’t hear from the Democrats. You know, we hear bullshit from the Democrats. Like Joe Manchin. Joe’s a nice guy.”

SCHMIDT: “He is a very nice guy.”

TRUMP: “But he talks. But he doesn’t do anything. He doesn’t do. “Hey, let’s get together, let’s do bipartisan.” I say, “Good, let’s go.” Then you don’t hear from him again. I like Joe. You know, it’s like he’s the great centrist. But he’s really not a centrist. And I think the people of West Virginia will see that. He not a centrist. … I’m the one that saved coal. I’m the one that created jobs. You know West Virginia is doing fantastically now.”

SCHMIDT: “It’s a big. … It’s a very popular place for you.”

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TRUMP: “It’s the biggest turnaround. West Virginia, their average, their G.D.P. is the biggest turnaround after Texas. Texas [inaudible]. … The second percentage gain in G.D.P. [Inaudible.] And I won that state by 43 points against crooked Hillary Clinton. And I’ll tell you, I think Joe, ah. … I think there’s a lot of talk. … A lot of talk. I think we have four or five senators that [inaudible]. Just so you understand, Alabama. … I wasn’t for him. I was for Strange.”

SCHMIDT: “Do you think he should stop the recount? You know he said that they’re. … He was protesting the election today. Moore.”

TRUMP: “Well, I. … Look. … Let him do whatever he wants to do. I was for Strange, and I brought Strange up 20 points. Just so you understand. When I endorsed him, he was in fifth place. He went way up. Almost 20 points. But he fell a little short. But I knew what I was doing. Because I thought that. … If you look at my rhetoric, I said the problem with Roy Moore is that he will lose the election. I called it. But as the head of the party, I have a choice: Do I endorse him or not? I don’t know. Um.” …

SCHMIDT: “Was it a mistake?”

TRUMP: “And by the way, when I endorsed him, he went up. It was a much closer race.”

SCHMIDT: “Was it a mistake to endorse him?”

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TRUMP: “I feel that I have to endorse Republicans as the head of the party. So, I endorsed him. It became a much closer race because of my endorsement. People don’t say that. They say, Oh, Donald Trump lost. I didn’t lose, I brought him up a lot. He was not the candidate that I thought was going to win. If you look at my statements, you’ve seen them, I said, “Look, I’m for Luther Strange because I like him, but I’m also for Luther Strange because he’s going to win the election.” There wouldn’t have been an election. He would have won by 25 points.”

SCHMIDT: “He would have won big?”

TRUMP: “The problem with Roy Moore, and I said this, is that he’s going to lose the election. I hope you can straighten that out. Luther Strange was brought way up after my endorsement and he almost won. But. … Almost won. … He lost by 7 points, 7 or 8 points. And he was way behind. Because of two things, you know, what happened. … [Inaudible.] … But I never thought Roy was going to win the election, but I felt. … I never thought he was going to win the election, but I felt. … And I said that very clearly. … And I wish you would cover that, because frankly, I said, if Luther doesn’t win, Roy is going to lose the election.”

O.K., let’s get onto your final question, your other question. Had the Democrats come through. …

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SCHMIDT: “Tell me about that, yeah.”

TRUMP: “Had they asked, “Let’s do a bipartisan,” Michael, I would have done bipartisan. I would absolutely have done bipartisan.”

TRUMP: “And if I did bipartisan, I would have done something with SALT [the state and local tax deduction]. With that being said, you look back, Ronald Reagan wanted to take deductibility away from states. Ronald Reagan, years ago, and he couldn’t do it. Because New York had a very powerful group of people. Which they don’t have today. Today, they don’t have the same representatives.”

Link to entire report: Excerpts From Trump’s Interview With The Times – The New York Times


  1. Sheesh… Is anyone any clearer on the message after that interview?

    DT is so verbally challenged, he couldn’t even give instructions on how to boil an egg (even if he watched someone do it at the same time). What a moron!

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    • Dear Colettebytes,

      I agree. He was all over the map during this interview hopping from subject to subject. Mr. Schmidt had to keep refocusing him back to the subject at hand.

      But he did remember to keep repeating No. 1, there is no collusion, No. 2, collusion is not a crime, but even if it was a crime, there was no collusion.

      Hugs, Gronda

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      • Dear Colettebytes,

        I want to take the time to wish you and yours a wonderful Happy New Year in 2018. Thanks a million for being a part of my blogging family.

        Hugs, Gronda


    • Dear Doubledragon61,

      And the beat goes on. The president and his lawyers have yet to figure out, that the FBI’s Special Counsel Mueller is not simply focusing on collusion allegations.

      They are about to face a rude awakening.

      Hugs, Gronda


  2. Hold on…dial back a bit ‘I have the absolute right’?????
    I bet you feel comforted by that scholarly interpretation of presidential powers.
    If I was running as a democrat in 2018 I would!

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    • Dear Roger,

      You are so right. Those words will be used to haunt him in the 2018 democratic election’s barbs against our president. Every American has heard this refrain, “No one in our country is above the law, and that includes the US president.”

      We already know that President Trump is clueless about our US constitution but he is about to learn more about its content than he ever wanted to know.

      Hugs, Gronda


  3. Gronda, he lives in his own universe. “Everybody is saying there is no collusion,” he says. Really? Other than his sycophants, I see many with a curious what and see attitude and others who say he is acting like he is guilty of something.

    This Russia investigation is a long way from done. Another revelation about Papadopolous came out just this weekend. What the sycophants need to realize, is the Russians can turn the switch against Trump, just as easily as they influenced in his favor. If anyone questions what Putin will do, it should be noted the Russian courts won’t let his strongest opponent run against him for being convicted of a crime that Putin manufactured against him last time – there is no need to wonder why Putin has 80% approval rating. Keith


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    • Dear Keith

      You are so right!

      The President and his republican sycophants in the WH, and in the US Congress are playing with a Tiger (Russia) that will eventually turn on them and eat them.

      Why are they focusing on collusion when the president looks, acts, and talks like a Russian asset?

      Hugs, Gronda


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