aside Robert Mueller III VS President Donald Trump

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Both President Donald Trump and his nemesis FBI’s Special Counsel Robert Mueller III were born into wealth in New York and are less than 2 years apart in age. Yet you couldn’t pick two men who are more different.

The Washington Post has published a mini-biography on both of these gentlemen. I have posted a link to the entire article, below.

Here’s the rest of the story…

On February 23, 2018, Marc Fisher and Sari Horwitz penned the following report, “Mueller and Trump: Born to wealth, raised to lead. Then, sharply different choices.”


“They are the sons of wealth, brought up in families accustomed to power. They were raised to show and demand respect, and they were raised to lead.”

“They rose to positions of enormous authority, the president of the US and the special counsel chosen to investigate him. They dress more formally than most of those around them; both sport meticulously coifed hair. They have won unusual loyalty from those who believe in them. They attended elite all-male private schools, were accomplished high school athletes and went on to Ivy League colleges. As young men, each was deeply affected by the death of a man he admired greatly.”

“Yet Robert Swan Mueller III and Donald John Trump, born 22 months apart in New York City, also can seem to come from different planets. One is courtly and crisp, the other blustery and brash. One turned away from the path to greater wealth, while the other spent half a century exploring every possible avenue to add to his assets.”

“At pivotal points in their lives, they made sharply divergent choices — as students, as draft-age men facing the dilemma of the Vietnam War, as ambitious alpha males deciding where to focus their energies.”

“Now, as they move toward an almost inevitable confrontation that could end in anything from deeper political discord to a fatal blow to this presidency, Trump, 71, and Mueller, 73, are behaving much as they have throughout their lives: As the president fumes about a “witch hunt” and takes his frustrations to his supporters, the special counsel remains publicly mute, speaking through inquiries and indictments.”

“The months flip by, and the showdown looms: Mueller and Trump, the war hero and the draft avoider, 2 men who rise early and live mainly at the office, two men who find relief on the golf course. They circle each other, speaking different languages. Their aides talk in fits and starts about whether and when the two will meet, but it remains unclear whether that will happen. So they continue on their missions, one loudly, the other in silence. Neither knows how this will end.”

From Princeton to the Marines
Robert Mueller, No. 12, was on the hockey team at St. Paul’s School, an elite boys’ prep school in New Hampshire, with future secretary of state John F. Kerry, No. 18, in 1962. (Rick Friedman/Corbis/Getty Images)
“Mueller was born to a social rank that barely exists anymore, a cosseted WASP elite of northeastern families who sent their sons to New England prep schools built with generations of inherited wealth.”

“Mueller’s father was an executive at DuPont, part of a family firmly planted in the country’s plutocracy. Mueller, who grew up in Princeton, N.J., and the Philadelphia Main Line, was sent to St. Paul’s School in New Hampshire, where the Astor, Vanderbilt and Mellon families educated their boys. At the Episcopal school, Mueller became captain of the soccer, hockey and lacrosse teams. He played hockey with classmate John F. Kerry, a future secretary of state and one of three St. Paul’s alumni who would run for president.”

“Mueller epitomized the tradition of “the muscular Christian” at the top prep schools, the archetype of the strong boy who embodies “values of kindness, respect and integrity,” said Maxwell King, 73, a classmate at St. Paul’s. “Bob was a very strong figure in our class. . . . He was thought of as somebody you could count on to be thoughtful about everybody on the team and to have very high standards.”

“”King, a former editor of the Philadelphia Inquirer who runs the Pittsburgh Foundation, said Mueller “had a good sense of humor, but he wasn’t smart-ass at all. He was serious, but in a way that everybody liked him and liked being around him.”

“Mueller was, from early on, a role model. As a group of boys gathered one day at the Tuck, a snack shop at St. Paul’s, a student made a derogatory comment about someone who wasn’t there. “Bob said he didn’t want to hear that,” King said. “I mean, we all said disparaging things about each other face to face. But saying something about someone who wasn’t there was something that Bob was uncomfortable with, and he let it be known and just walked out.”
“A weeks after he finished Princeton with a degree in politics in 1966, Mueller enlisted in the Marine Corps, a rare choice for an Ivy League graduate at a time when many young men were casting about for ways to avoid the draft. Mueller, who declined to be interviewed for this article, has often said he was inspired to join the Marines by his lacrosse teammate David Hackett, who had graduated from Princeton a year earlier and gone off to fight in Vietnam.”
Off to military school
“Like Mueller, Trump was raised in rare comfort. The Trumps had a family chef and chauffeur, but they never considered themselves part of the country’s ruling class. Theirs was immigrant stock, from Germany and Scotland, hardy entrepreneurs who tackled the new land with a blitz of new businesses — restaurants, hotels and, finally, real estate.”

“The president’s father, Fred Trump, made his fortune himself, building middle-class housing for the union workers and civil servants of New York’s outer boroughs. Even after he’d established himself as one of the city’s biggest builders, Fred Trump still toiled in the trenches, taking young Donald along on weekends when they went door to door at Trump Village in Brooklyn, collecting rent.”

“Donald Trump grew up in a 23-room manse in Queens, a faux Southern plantation house with a Cadillac limousine in the driveway. He attended private school from kindergarten on; his focus in school, Trump told The Washington Post in 2016, was “creating mischief, because, for some reason, I liked to stir things up and I liked to test people. . . . It wasn’t malicious so much as it was aggressive.”

“In second grade, he said, he punched his music teacher in the face. He got into trouble often. Before eighth grade started, his father sent him to military school.”

“At New York Military Academy, where the rules were so strictly enforced that a desperate cadet was said to have leaped into the Hudson River in an attempted escape, Trump thrived. Although he ate in a mess hall instead of being served steaks by the family cook, and although he slept in a barracks rather than his own room in a mansion, he for the first time took pride in his grades. He won medals for neatness and order. He also won notice from fellow cadets for touting his father’s wealth and boasting to friends that “I’m going to be famous one day.”

“Trump competed to become a cadet leader and enjoyed wielding authority. As a junior supply sergeant in E Company, he ordered that a cadet be struck on the backside as punishment for breaking formation. Another time, while inspecting dorm rooms, Trump saw cadet Ted Levine’s unmade bed and blew up, ripping off the sheets and tossing them on the floor, Levine said. Levine threw a combat boot at Trump and hit him with a broomstick. Trump, infuriated, grabbed Levine and tried to push him out a second-story window, Levine said.”

“Promoted to captain of A Company, Trump won respect from some of the other boys, who said they never wanted to disappoint him. Trump introduced them to a world of fun, setting up a tanning salon in his dorm room, bringing beautiful women to campus and leading the baseball team to victory.”

“But other cadets said Trump tried to break boys who didn’t bend to his will. During Trump’s senior year, when one of his sergeants shoved a new cadet against a wall for not standing at attention quickly enough, Trump was relieved of his duty in the barracks, said Lee Ains, the student who was shoved.”

“Trump denied being demoted, saying he was actually moved up. “You don’t get elevated if you partake in hazing,” he told The Post in 2016. He was put in charge of a drill team that would perform in New York City’s Columbus Day Parade.”


    • Dear !EarthUnited,

      I do disagree that our IC community is sub-par.but Mr. Mueller is still setting up his case. When Mr. Mueller has enough verified facts, he’ll go through the process. No one is expecting that President Trump will cooperate but Mr. Mueller still has to do what is right.

      Hugs, Gronda

      • Well, lets review…

        FBI stood by idly during the 2016 election while Russian interference happening. Even today they have no solutions against Russian meddling.

        Florida school massacre – enough said.

        CIA failed spying operations in China and all over the world:

        Comey failed to indict Hillary due to partisan politics. Mueller will likely give Trump a pass b/c or partisan politics as well.

        NSA exposed for spying on private citizens without warrant (Edward Snowden leaks NSA Prism Program).

        NSA exposed for creating nasty hacking viruses, fell into the wrong hands. Now Russian hackers have the same cutting edge hacking tools as NSA.

        The leaked NSA hacking tools keep showing up in criminal schemes:

        NSA-linked tools help power second global ransomware outbreak:

        Doesn’t look good for our guys, moral is at an all time low:
        Low morale in intelligence community amid public criticism

        It goes on and on…….

        • Dear 1EarthUnited,

          Thanks for all the references.

          Whenever one reviews the history of institutions, countries, or any individual, there will be a history of successes, failures,mistakes, areas where improvements can be made. If we only focus on the mistakes,failures, we are not seeing the complete picture.

          The NSA story under the Democratic President Barack Obama was a time that I was furious. The American peoples were lied to directly by our government.

          We were lied to about how solid the intelligence was that got us into the Iraq War. We were misled about US torture practices for awhile.

          One thing you can count on in the USA, is that those mistakes, failures will see the light of day.

          If you have a chance to watch the movie, “the Post,” you’ll get an idea of of how this works.

          After the intelligence failures of 9/11, there were major changes made regarding the collection and sharing of data. After the torture info got out, there were steps taken to end its usage. After the Iraq war, there has to be specific info as to the reliability of a source so that better decisions can be made in the future.

          This is part of our US history. What is not being covered are the successes.For recent history, when Mr. Mueller completes his work product, you will see a masterpiece, the FBI at its best.

          Incidentally, Mr. Comey is not off the hook. I do look at the handling of the Clinton emails differently than you do, but what is important, is that he is under investigation about what he did wrong or right in the Clinton case by the US Department of Justice’s Inspector General, Mr Horowitz. There is a draft of his work that took over a year to finish, that is under review, but which has yet to be shared with the public. I suspect that the report will be critical of Mr. Comey but not in the way that you are thinking.

          In short, don’t sell the IC community or the FBI short. That does not mean that these institutions are perfect or without sin.

          Hugs, Gronda

        • Of course you are right, every institution has it’s ups and downs. For the past several years, sadly our IC has been dropping the ball. Perhaps an internal overhaul and shakeup of dead weight is necessary to bring them back.

          The FBI has been a real disappointment lately, I’m sure the American public are not too happy with the way they handled mass shooting during the past few years.

          We’ll see how they respond under Trump going forward as Trump vowed to restructure our IC from the top down.


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