aside Is President For Real When He Says He Wants To Pass Comprehensive Gun Control Measures?

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On February 28, 2018 the republican President Donald Trump held a pow wow with lawmakers from the US Congress to encourage them to deliver on a comprehensive bi-partisan gun control bill.

We’ve seen this dance before when the president produced and directed a reality show performance where he appeared to favor a bi-partisan resolution on the DACA program.  I had been one of those foolish folks who had believed the president when he held a meeting with congressional lawmakers on 1/9/18, to work on immigration legislation where TV cameras were present. The president announced in front of the cameras that he was willing to sign any immigration reform agreed to by both republicans and democrats.

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My thinking hardened when President Trump chose to blow up the bi-partisan plan worked on by Senator Dick Durbin (D-IL) and Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and 4 others, to fix the DACA (Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals) program and other immigration issues, at a Thursday morning meeting (1/11/18). Senators Durbin and Graham were prepared to present their proposal, but the president chose to renege on earlier commitments to approve any bi-partisan work product by blowing up the meeting with profanity and by referring to Haiti, El Salvador and African countries as shxtholes,

This push for serious gun control measures by the president had better not be repeat performance of the DACA fiasco where the White House pretended to care about young peoples not being subject to deportation by DHS ICE agents, because they had lived in the US since childhood with parents who were undocumented and know no other country. But then the White House did everything possible to kill any bills fixing the DACA program that were close to passing.

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We will see. Will the president carry through on what he said today (2/28/18) or will he succumb to the out-sized power of the (National Rifle Association) NRA lobby’s hold over the GOP like he did with the hard-line anti-immigration faction in the White House and the US Congress when it came to fixing DACA?

Meanwhile VOX has provided a transcript of the White House’s meeting with US lawmakers over the issue of gun control.

Here’s the rest of the story… 

As per a 2/28/18 VOX report by Rachel Wolfe, “President Donald Trump sat down with lawmakers at the White House Wednesday (2/28/18) afternoon to discuss gun policy in the wake of the shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida (2/14/18) — and Trump appeared to enthusiastically endorse several gun control measures, including a bipartisan gun control bill that failed to pass the Senate during Barack Obama’s presidency.”

“It was a surprising scene, but it’s not yet clear if Trump’s words will translate into policy. Below is a full rush transcript of the meeting at the White House:”

President Trump bucks the Republican Party on gun control: full transcript

 

18 comments

  1. Dear Mz. Gronda,

    While it would be a good thing if any meaningful changes were to take place due to the actions of King donnie, my bet is that it is simply a political trap designed to lure the Democrats into a position that the NRA can once again blame them for trying to take the guns from the hands of poor little gun owners. No matter what the snake promises you, would you allow him to guard your hen house when the chickens are sitting on their eggs? Some how this issue will blow up and if they are not careful it will be the Democrats that will take the brunt of the blast!

    • Dear Crustyolemothman,

      I am skeptical that whatever the president promises on any given day, will amount to anything, if it upsets in any way a good portion of his base.

      This time if a reasonable gun control bi-partisan bill gets blown up, the Democrats will make sure the republicans own the remains.

      We will see what happens.

      Hugs, Gronda

  2. Hallo Gronda, I hope you are well. Peace and love to you and yours. It will soon become apparent that members of the man with little hands, will betray him because the emperor has no clothes. Imagine the POTUS being a COMPROMAT, not only for infidelity but because previously it was money. As I have said before, he will be caught between a honey trap or a money trap, politics aside, for your president is NOT a politician nor a respectable person. In fact, the world will possibly not recover for the damage that global representation of America (the once proud) has done to the idea of democracy. There is no longer an intellect or respect that USA could provide, you might get rid of him (33%) but the stain will remain. The complexity of this will be expressed by violent action around june 2018, but then again, I hear these funny voices…
    HUGS MATE, your antipodean friend. G

    • Dear Gary J,

      It is always good to hear from you.

      The president and his republican sycophants have done a lot of damage to this country as well as to relationships, abroad.

      Those involved in this debacle will be made to pay a price but the aftermath will not be pretty. We all know this but what else can we do but push forward.

      That we will recover is of no doubt but with a few scars. We have overcome worse.

      As for your prediction for violence in June 2018, I pray that you are wrong.

      Hugs, Gronda

  3. Gronda, this meeting reminds me of the Kum-ba-ya meeting on DACA last month. He was all over the place and no one knows what he truly wants. Then, he ended up stabbing Graham and Durbin on the back.

    What also comes out in these sessions is how little he knows about the subjects. Which makes him pliable to the last person who speaks with him. Keith

    • Dear Keith,

      But he sure was giving the republicans in the room some heart palpitations. This time if he backtracks big time from approving a bi-partisan gun control bill, he will regret it.

      At that point the “NeverAgain” crowd and the Dreamers should form an alliance to make sure those opposed never see an elected position again.

      Hugs, Gronda

      • Gronda, he did, but then he has lunch with the NRA. Whatever he proposes will be as little as he can get away with and will have the NRA finger prints on it. Keith

      • Gronda, there’s way too much vested interest in keeping the NRA and gun manufacturers happy. I honestly do not see a viable bi-partisan gun control bill signed. I’m sure both sides will pay lip service to empty promises, but it’s just business as usual. Let our votes do the talking come mid-term elections. That will send a clear and present message.

        • Dear !EarthUnited,

          I think that on this issue, we are all on the same page. While this is one of those times that I would love to be wrong, I think that it is unlikely that any gun control bill of any significance will get passed by this US Congress.

          Hugs, Gronda

  4. Keith, you’ve hit the nail on the head. Trump is not intelligent enough to have a good grasp of most issues and the only things he truly cares about are his fan base and his enemies. Naw, I don’t trust him to do anything that could be construed as benefitting the common good.

  5. I watched that meeting and a good portion of Trump’s offerings for gun control centered on mental health. That means that what he wants for gun control CANNOT be done. Each state has its own mental health laws. Local law enforcement generally makes the decision on whether to take people to a mental health facility for assessment. The federal government has no jurisdiction over state mental health laws.

    Removing anyone’s property without due process of law, as Trump suggests, is unconstitutional. The states would fight that tooth and nail.

    Maybe Trump doesn’t know, but Adam Lanza did not purchase the guns that he used to carry out the Sandy Hook massacre. They were his mom’s guns. What Trump is introducing regarding background checks and mental health, would not have prevent Lanza from carrying out that massacre.

    What Trump ducked and dodged was talking about banning assault weapons. That is the quickest solution.

    • Dear Xena,

      Any one measure of gun control will not work in each and every case but whatever can be done to help in some cases, works for me. I am in agreement that the ban on assault type weapons that expired in 2004 needs to be reinstated.

      In addition, I want enhanced background checks including for guns sold at gun shows; a longer waiting period because if the background check isn’t forthcoming within 3 days, the dealer gets his sale; making it against the law to add devices like “bump stocks” which can alter a legal weapon into a machine gun.

      if someone is on terror watch list, he/she should not be able to buy a gun; better required updating of data into a central system data base that would bar someone from purchasing a gun; the removal of guns for those declared to be a harm to themselves or others by a judicial order.

      I am in favor of a federal law barring purchase for assault rifles for those less than 21 years of age.

      I would want federal approval for research regarding gun violence in our culture; the barring of the NRA from restricting dealers ability to sell smart guns, and I want the Obama’s limited restrictions on the mentally ill being able to purchase guns, reinstated.

      Hugs, Gronda

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