aside Why Were Friends Of President Trump At The January 2017 Seychelles Islands Meeting?

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Mohammed bin Zayed al-Nahyan/ Erik Prince

There are now two meetings that the republican President Donald Trump’s family was involved with directly or indirectly that pertain to the FBI’s Trump-Russia probe which is under review by the FBI’s Special Counsel Robert Mueller III. The one centers around the June 2016 Trump Towers meeting where the president’s campaign manager, Mr. Trump’s sons and son-in-law were present along with Russian operatives; and the other was held around January 2017 in the Seychelles Islands where Erik Prince purportedly claimed to represent the interests of Donald Trump with a Russian money man with close ties to Russia’s President Putin and UAE officials were gathered.

This story has legs on many levels. If Erik Prince has lied to the FBI about who was present at the Seychelles gathering he will find himself in legal jeopardy. The above meetings along with many others develop an obvious pattern of involvement by Russians as well as other players like the UAE. The UAE does have close working ties with Israel, as their interests are aligned since both are foes of Iran. It is a possibility that there were discussions around Russia rethinking their alliance with Iran. It could be credibly argued that all these players Russia, the UAE and Israel had a vested interest in Mr. Donald Trump becoming the 45th US president. You can see hints of these seeds developing into policies by the president that are favorable to all three power houses.

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The report below offers more details about the Seychelles Meeting…

On March 7, 2018, Andrew Prokop of VOX penned the following report, “The Secret Seychelles meeting Robert Mueller is zeroing in on, explained” (“Why did Erik Prince meet with a Russian fund manager shortly before Trump’s inauguration?”)

“Anonymous sources have long claimed to reporters that the purpose of the Seychelles meeting was for Trump’s team to covertly communicate with Putin’s team. After all, it happened just weeks after Jared Kushner reportedly told the Russians that he wanted to set up a backchannel through which they could communicate.”

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Kirill Dmitriev, a Russian fund manager

“We don’t yet know the specifics of what Nader is saying as part of his semi-voluntary cooperation (the FBI questioned him at Dulles Airport after a flight last month and seized his electronics, per the Times). But if Prince was acting on the Trump’s team behalf, it would demolish months worth of denials from both him and the White House that he was doing any such thing. And it would raise serious questions about just why, exactly, all parties involved were so set on keeping the Seychelles meeting secret.”

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“The people present to meet at the Seychelles on January 11, 2017, included the following:“Erik Prince is the founder of Blackwater, the private security / mercenary company that scored big contracts from George W. Bush’s administration (and some of whose employees were accused of killing Iraqi civilians). Prince has since sold Blackwater (which renamed itself) and gone out in search of new lines of mercenary business. Prince donated about $250,000 to Trump’s campaign and to outside groups supporting Trump, and was in contact with Steve Bannon during the transition. He also happens to be he brother of controversial Education Secretary Betsy DeVos.”

“MBZ, or Mohammed bin Zayed al-Nahyan, is the Crown Prince and de facto ruler of the United Arab Emirates. MBZ did business with Erik Prince several years ago — the UAE awarded Prince a contract worth several hundred million dollars “to help assemble an internal paramilitary force,” per the Washington Post. Diplomatically, the UAE regime is close to Saudi Arabia, and unfriendly to Qatar and Iran.”


“George Nader, a Lebanese-American businessman who has a decades-long history in international diplomacy, has lately advised MBZ. He visited the White House several times in 2017. He also at one point consulted for Blackwater.”

“Finally, there’s the setting — the Seychelles Islands is a tropical archipelago nation a few hundred miles off the coast of eastern Africa. Its government brags that it is “the kind of place where you can have a good time away from the media.”

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The context of the Seychelles meeting

“Potentially relevant context for the Seychelles meeting is that there were several other meetings of the various factions involved the month before, mostly happening in Trump Tower.”

“On December 1, 2016, Jared Kushner and Michael Flynn secretly met in Trump Tower with the Russian ambassador, Sergey Kislyak. Kisyak reported back to his bosses that, at this meeting, Kushner said he wanted to set up a secret communications channel between the Trump Team and Russia. (Kushner denies that this happened.)”

“Days later, the Washington Post received an anonymous letter revealing that this secret meeting happened and who was present (though they couldn’t confirm it for several more months). The letter also claimed that, at the meeting, Kushner, Flynn, and Kislyak discussed setting up a meeting between a Trump representative and a Russian in some third country, and concluded Flynn was too high-profile to go.”

“On December 12, Kislyak returned to Trump Tower and met with Kushner’s deputy. Then, on the following day, Sergey Gorkov, the head of the Russian-government owned bank VEB, stopped by to meet with Kushner. Again, these meetings remained secret for months.”

“Then, on December 15, 2016, a little over a month after Trump won the presidential election, the United Arab Emirates crown prince, MBZ, flew to the United States. There, he met with several Trump transition officials, including Flynn, Kushner, and Steve Bannon. What was strange about this was that MBZ did not inform the Obama administration that he was traveling to the US, as major foreign leaders usually do. Trump’s team didn’t disclose the meeting either, and it too remained secret for several months.”

“Erik Prince also visited Trump Tower twice during the transition, to meet with Steve Bannon, he later testified.”

What happened in the Seychelles: Erik Prince’s account

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What happened in the Seychelles: Erik Prince’s account

“Prince’s story of how he ended up going to the Seychelles and what took place there, which he gave under oath to the House Intelligence Committee on November 30, 2017, is as follows.”

  • “One day, an aide to Mohammed bin Zayed (MBZ), the crown prince of the United Arab Emirate, invited Prince to fly out to the Seychelles and meet MBZ, offering few details. Prince characterizes the invitation as: “His Highness would like to see you if you can come out to the Seychelles.” Prince says he understood this as an invitation “to talk about potential business.”
  • “So Prince accepted, and flew out there on January 11, 2017. A meeting of about an hour ensued with MBZ, “a couple of his brothers,” and others in his entourage. They discussed general issues in the field but no specific business proposal was made.”
  • “Toward the end of the meeting, Prince testified, someone in MBZ’s party casually “mentioned a guy I should meet who was also in town to see them, a Kirill Dmitriev from Russia, who ran some sort of hedge fund.” (Prince did not name Nader in his testimony.)”
  • “Prince accepted, and met Dmitriev at the hotel bar one-on-one for no more than thirty minutes. They discussed general issues in the field but no specific business proposal was made. Prince then stayed in the hotel that night, and left the next morning.”
  • “Overall, the meeting with Dmitriev was so uneventful that, he claims, he couldn’t even remember the man’s name a few months later. There was no follow-up to it. And Prince certainly never claimed in any way to be acting on behalf of Donald Trump.Was this the secret US/Russia backchannel meeting that Kushner reportedly wanted?”

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“The Washington Post was the first to unearth the Seychelles meeting, in a report by Adam Entous, Greg Miller, Kevin Sieff and Karen DeYoung published last April, which was sourced to anonymous “U.S., European and Arab officials.” Their account of why and how the meeting happened was very different from Prince’s. They write:”

“Following the New York meeting between the Emiratis and Trump aides, Zayed was approached by Prince, who said he was authorized to act as an unofficial surrogate for the president-elect, according to the officials. He wanted Zayed to set up a meeting with a Putin associate. Zayed agreed and proposed the Seychelles as the meeting place because of the privacy it would afford both sides.”

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“So, per the Post’s sources, it was Erik Prince who said he wanted the meeting, who said he was acting as a surrogate for president-elect Trump, and who asked MBZ’s team to put him in touch with a Putin confidant. The whole purpose of the meeting was to be a backchannel between Trump’s team and Putin’s team.”

“That would sure seem to make sense, since all this happened shortly after Kushner reportedly said he wanted a to establish a secret backchannel with Russia, and both MBZ and Prince made their own trips to see Trump officials not long after that. However, there was no actual proof of this”.

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“It’s also worth noting that Michael Flynn has been cooperating with Mueller’s investigators since early December, and we haven’t seen any of the fruits of his cooperation yet. Flynn was present in the meeting in which Kushner reportedly told Kislyak he wanted a backchannel. He was also present when Kushner and Bannon met MBZ. He may well have told Mueller why the Seychelles meeting happened.”

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And if the Seychelles meeting was a backchannel — what actually came of it?

“If it were to be proven that the Trump team wanted to set up the Seychelles meeting, the question would remain about what actually happened there — and why those involved wanted so badly to keep it secret.”

“One potential topic is, of course, the incoming administration’s foreign policy. In the first Post report on the meeting, their sources claimed that one topic of discussion was “whether Russia could be persuaded to curtail its relationship with Iran, including in Syria,” a topic that was very much of interest to the UAE.”

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“Was money involved? The Russian who went to the meeting, Kirill Dmitriev, is a moneyman, after all. So is Sergey Gorkov, who met with Jared Kushner in Trump Tower weeks earlier. What’s more, Dmitriev’s fund was until 2016 actually part of the Russian government-owned bank Gorkov runs, VEB.”

“Furthermore, this week’s Times report says that Mueller “appears to be examining the influence of foreign money on Mr. Trump’s political activities,” and has previously asked whether Nader “funneled money from the Emirates to the president’s political efforts.” So he does seem to be following some sort of money trail.”

“Finally, and perhaps most obviously of all, there’s the possibility that this happened so that Trump’s team and Putin’s could secretly communicate about Russian interference in the 2016 campaign. “


    • Dear Suzanne,

      Mr. Mueller’s FBI agents met the coordinator of the meeting, George Nader on his return flight to Dulles airport to collect his computer, etc. Mr. Mueller’s team knows plenty.

      Hugs, Gronda


  1. Gronda, this is one tangled web. The President’s guilt is there to be found. Attacking the integrity of any person or group who may prove to be an obstacle is in this man’s modus operandi. Yet, he fails to attack Russia for what they have done by words or sanctions. Why? Keith

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    • Dear Keith,

      The good news is that the president and his cronies haven’t had as much success as they wanted with their campaign to disparage the FBI and its Trump-Russia probe.

      The GOP knows the president is a Russian asset or why would they enact a law to ban the president from ending US Russian sanctions without congressional approval? They’ve watched him not follow up to do his part to implement the latest sanctions bill that the congress passed.

      Too many are backing the president vs honoring their oath of office to protect this country and our constitution.

      So we have too many cowards and liars running our US government.

      Hugs, Gronda


  2. Dear Mz. Gronda,

    Hmmm, so Erik Prince would have us to believe that he flew half way around the world for a meeting that simply took a few short minutes and only consisted of small talk? Do you suppose he actually thinks anyone with a mind larger than a snail (other than King Little Hand Trump) would accept that as truth? Wow, what do you suppose these people are smoking…

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    • Dear Crustyolemothman,

      It is Erik Prince’s hubris and arrogance that will do him in, in the end. He was meeting with the Russian money man for a reason and it wasn’t by chance. When Mr. Mueller puts it all out there, it is going to be one humdinger of a story, one that beats any Tom Clancy novel in twists, turns and intrigue.

      But it really starts with the April 27, 2016 Mayflower hotel meeting with where the following folks were present: Donald Trump, Jeff Sessions and Jared Kushner along with the Russian ambassador to the U.S. Sergey Kislyak.

      Roger Stone had a political consulting business with Paul Manafort for about 15 years. Roger Stone has ties to Russia. Paul Manafort, Roger Stone and President Trump go way back for decades. Roger Stone parted ways with Trump campaign soon after Paul Manafort was fired Aug 2016 because of Russian ties.

      Russian ties were set up before Paul Manafort ever showed up. UAE wiggled in on the deal along with Israel.

      QUESTION: Why would the Trump team need to set up back channel communications where the US IC community could not monitor with Russia during the transition period if there had not been Trump-Russia communications already before Mr. Trump became president?

      There is a reason Gen Flynn was crucial to the running of the White House.

      Hugs, Gronda


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