aside 7/24/2019 House Hearings With FBI Mr. Mueller Started Slow In AM But Picked Up In PM

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Today, the 24th of July 2019, I had great expectations about the FBI’s Special Counsel Robert Mueller III testifying about his findings regarding his FBI’s 3/22/2019 final report with the House Judiciary Committee members led by the Democratic Party Chairman Rep. Jerry Nadler of NY.
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I started out feeling badly for the FBI special counsel as it became painfully apparent that he was floundering with the onslaught of speeding bullet questions by lawmakers from both sides of the aisle. Mr. Mueller looked lost and appeared to be indifferent in answering questions. But the Democratic Party members where able to elicit his confirmation on the major points of Mr. Mueller’s investigative conclusions, like the Mueller report did not exonerate President Trump; the FBI Trump-Russia probe was not a “witch hunt; Russia’s attack on us voting systems in 2016 was not a hoax; that there’s not been enough done with US voting systems to prevent the Russians from repeating their 2016 attack on US elections infrastructure in 2020;  that President Trump could be arrested if he leaves office in January 2021 but Mr.Mueller did not confirm this to be true if he exits the White House in 2025.
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By the afternoon, the atmospherics did an about turn for the better, as Mr. Mueller became more engaged in answering questions presented to him by the House’s Intelligence Committee led by the Chairman Rep. Adam Schiff.
However, it’s very unlikely that there will be a sweeping uptick in public opinion where the majority of Americans will start leaning favorably towards the House initiating an impeachment inquiry/ investigation.
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It would be safe to say that the Trumpian GOP world is probably feeling celebratory as the hearing did not meet the expectations that Democrats were counting on to better educate the public and / or to move the needle further towards garnering people’s support for the House to commence impeachment proceedings. We the People can be counting on President Trump gloating while he does the “victory dance.”
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But the Democratic Party House Speaker Nancy Pelosi had better not let President Trump weasel out of being held criminally liable like a slimy snake because she’s limited in her sphere of influence by the anti-impeachment 33 moderate House Democrats from Trump districts who turned red GOP led districts, blue in 2018, which gave the House speaker her majority position for the first time in 8 years. She forgets / discounts that it was the record voter turnout by the young activists and our Black sisters that helped catapult these moderate House members to victory by laser-slim margins.
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During the afternoon hearing, it was pointed out that if President Trump wins reelection in 2020 that he may never be held accountable for all of his felonious acts and abuses of power because the “statute of limitations” for 5 years which can’t be tolled within the constraints of criminal law. Rep. Nadler has promised to work on legislation to fix this, but he can’t pass anything that will not be DOA in the GOP-led US Senate.
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This leaves only one sure way to hold President Trump responsible for all of his wrongdoings, which is via the impeachment process, a powerful non-legislative legal tool that was granted to the US House of Representatives by the US Constitution.
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REP. ADAM SCHIFF (R)
Jed Shugerman  /@jedshug tweeted the following on 7/24/2019:
Pundits say no new legal ground today? Wrong.
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@RepMikeQuigleyset up a new legal argument for impeachment: The statute of limitations means a president could be permanently above the law. Impeachment could be the only opportunity to hold Trump accountable or even accuse him:”
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God bless..
@RepMikeQuigley on the OLC memo error: “What if a president serves beyond the statute of limitations?”
Mueller: “I don’t know the answer to that question.”
Q: “The statute doesn’t toll.”
M: “I don’t know specifically.
Q: “It clearly doesn’t.”
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Here are excerpts from Rep. Nadler’s opening comments as per the 7/24/2019 NY Post:
“We will follow your example, Director Mueller. We will act with integrity. We will follow the facts where they lead​,” Nadler said in his opening statement to the committee. “We will consider all appropriate remedies. We will make our recommendation to the House when our work concludes.​”​

​”Nadler outlined the ​lines of questioning ​pertaining to sections of his report.”

“In Volume I, you find that the Russian government attacked our 2016 elections ​’​in a sweeping and systematic fashion,​’​ and that the attacks were designed to benefit the Trump campaign​,” the NY Democrat said.​”

“Volume II walks us through ​10 separate incidents of possible obstruction of justice where, in your words, President Trump attempted to exert undue influence over your investigation​.”

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“He said the “most shocking” of the incidents in the report occurred when Trump ordered White House counsel Don McGahn to have Mueller fired and then ​lie about it publicly. He also said Trump tried to prevent witnesses from cooperating with ​Mueller’s probe.”

“Although ​​department policy barred you from indicting the ​p​resident for this conduct, you made clear that he is not exonerated​,” Nadler said. “Any other person who acted this way would have been charged with a crime. And in this nation, not even the ​president is above the law.​”​

“He said the committee will approach the hearing with “responsibility, integrity, and accountability.​”

“Director Mueller, we have a responsibility to address the evidence you have uncovered. You recognized as much when you said ‘the Constitution requires a process other than the criminal justice system to formally accuse a sitting president of wrongdoing,’” Nadler said.

“That process begins with the work of this committee,” he said.

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On July 24, 2019, the staff of “TPM Talking Points Memo printed the opening remarks by the House Intelligence Committee chair Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) prior to the FBI’s Special Mueller III participating in the planned hearing…

Below are Schiff’s prepared remarks from TPM, “READ: Adam Schiff’s Devastating Indictment Of Trump’s ‘Disloyalty To Country’…

“At the outset and on behalf of my colleagues, I want to thank you, Special Counsel Mueller, for a lifetime of service to the country.”

“Your report, for those who have taken the time to study it, is methodical and it is devastating, for it tells the story of a foreign adversary’s sweeping and systematic intervention in a close U.S. presidential election.”

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That should be enough to deserve the attention of every American, as you well point out. But your report tells another story as well. For the story of the 2016 presidential election is also a story about disloyalty to country, about greed, and about lies.”

“Your investigation determined that the Trump campaign – including Trump himself – knew that a foreign power was intervening in our election and welcomed it, built Russian meddling into their strategy, and used it.”

“Disloyalty to country. Those are strong words, but how else are we to describe a presidential campaign which did not inform the authorities of a foreign offer of dirt on their opponent, which did not publicly shun it, or turn it away, but which instead invited it, encouraged it, and made full use of it?”

“That should be enough to deserve the attention of every American, as you well point out. But your report tells another story as well. For the story of the 2016 presidential election is also a story about disloyalty to country, about greed, and about lies.”

“Your investigation determined that the Trump campaign – including Trump himself – knew that a foreign power was intervening in our election and welcomed it, built Russian meddling into their strategy, and used it.”

“Disloyalty to country. Those are strong words, but how else are we to describe a presidential campaign which did not inform the authorities of a foreign offer of dirt on their opponent, which did not publicly shun it, or turn it away, but which instead invited it, encouraged it, and made full use of it?”

“That disloyalty may not have been criminal. Constrained by uncooperative witnesses, the destruction of documents and the use of encrypted communications, your team was not able to establish each of the elements of the crime of conspiracy beyond a reasonable doubt, so not a provable crime, in any event. But, I think, maybe, something worse. A crime is the violation of a law written by Congress. But disloyalty to country violates the very obligation of citizenship, our devotion to a core principle on which our nation was founded, that we, the people, not some foreign power that wishes us ill, we decide, who shall govern, us.”

“This also a story about money, about greed and corruption, about the leadership of a campaign willing to compromise the nation’s interest not only to win, but to make money at the same time.”

“About a campaign chairman indebted to pro-Russian interests who tried to use his position to clear his debts and make millions. About a national security advisor using his position to make money from still other foreign interests. And about a candidate trying to make more money than all of them, through a real estate project that to him, was worth a fortune, hundreds of millions of dollars, and the realization of a lifelong ambition – a Trump Tower in the heart of Moscow. A candidate who, in fact, viewed his whole campaign as the greatest infomercial in history.”

“Donald Trump and his senior staff were not alone in their desire to use the election to make money. For Russia, too, there was a powerful financial motive. Putin wanted relief from U.S. economic sanctions imposed in the wake of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and over human rights violations. The secret Trump Tower meeting between the Russians and senior campaign officials was about sanctions. The secret conversations between Flynn and the Russian ambassador were about sanctions. Trump and his team wanted more money for themselves, and the Russians wanted more money for themselves, and for their oligarchs.”

“But the story doesn’t end here either. For your report also tells a story about lies. Lots of lies.”

“Lies about a gleaming tower in Moscow and lies about talks with the Kremlin. Lies about the firing of FBI Director James Comey, and lies about efforts to fire you, Mr. Mueller, and lies to cover it up. Lies about secret negotiations with the Russians over sanctions and lies about Wikileaks. Lies about polling data and lies about hush money payments. Lies about meetings in the Seychelles to set up secret back channels, and lies about a secret meeting in New York Trump Tower. Lies to the FBI, lies to your staff, and lies to our Committee.”

“And lies to obstruct an investigation into the most serious attack on our democracy by a foreign power in our history.”

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“That is where your report ends, Mr. Mueller, with a scheme to cover up, obstruct and deceive every bit as systematic and pervasive as the Russian disinformation campaign itself, but far more pernicious since this rot came from within.”

“Even now, after 448 pages in two volumes, the deception continues. The President and his acolytes say your report found no collusion, though your report explicitly declined to address that question, since collusion can involve both criminal and non-criminal conduct.”

“Your report laid out multiple offers of Russian help to the Trump campaign, the campaign’s acceptance of that help, and overt acts in furtherance of Russian help. To most Americans, that is the very definition of collusion, whether it is a crime or not.”

“They say your report found no evidence of obstruction, though you outline numerous actions by the President intended to obstruct the investigation.”

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“They say the President has been fully exonerated, though you specifically declare you could not exonerate him.”

“In fact, they say your whole investigation was nothing more than a witch hunt, that the Russians didn’t interfere in our election, that it’s all a terrible hoax. The real crime, they say, is not that the Russians intervened to help Donald Trump, but that the FBI had the temerity to investigate it when they did.”

“But worst of all, worse than all the lies and the greed, is the disloyalty to country, for that too, continues. When asked, if the Russians intervene again, will you take their help, Mr. President? Why not, was the essence of his answer. Everyone does it.”
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“No, Mr. President, they don’t. Not in the America envisioned by Jefferson, Madison and Hamilton. Not for those who believe in the idea that Lincoln labored until his dying day to preserve, the idea animating our great national experiment, so unique then, so precious still — that our government is chosen by our people, through our franchise, and not by some hostile foreign power.”

“This is what is at stake. Our next election, and the one after that, for generations to come. Our democracy.”

“This is why your work matters, Mr. Mueller. This is why our investigation matters. To bring these dangers to light.”

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2 comments

  1. Great recap, Gronda. I’m dismayed that so many in the media are focusing on HOW Mueller spoke instead of WHAT he said. As far as I’m concerned, what he said is critically important for all Americans to know. And I dearly hope that lower information voters who perhaps haven’t been paying as much attention until now just got some serious doses of information that they didn’t have before.

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    • Dear TokyoSand,

      I like you wish/ hope that the public will pay more attention to the substance of what was said by Mr. Mueller. It seems to be a new normal where some in the press expect a made for TV reality show. If this was the goal, Mr. Mueller, the professional, competent, non partisan bureaucrat has become a relic of the past.

      Hugs, Gronda

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